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Same story from NV always...

"Our next generation will be 1.5x to 2x the performance of the current generation cards."

I don't believe it for a second. Marketing crap, and not very well thought out at that either.
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sounds to me like a bunch of broke little kids arguing over something they can't afford either ways or no reason to care cause obviously they own no stock in either company.
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post #23 of 54
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Originally Posted by Croft View Post
Jesus, calm down, buddy, these are just video cards. No I am not an idiot but I don't study these things night and day. However I do not think 3 cards hardly qualify as a full series release.

Also, I was under the assumption both the 8 series and 9 series were 65 nm. Am I wrong?
It would take you about 15 minutes to learn everything I know about video cards. It's not hard.

There were 4 (will be 5) cards:
9600GSO
9600GT
9800GTX
9800GX2
and there will soon be a 9800GTX+

its a fairly complete series.

And you are mistaken. the original 8 series was 90nm (8800GTX and 8800GTS320+540) then they came out with the 8800GT and 8800GTS 512 which were 65nm, then they decided it would be better to rebrand these cards as the 9-series ("a complete new series that is supposedly much faster") rather than just calling them the 8850s or 8900s.

I wouldn't put rebranding a 55nm GTX280 as a GTX380 past nvidia any day, or any second of the week.

And this is most-likely exactly what they are going to do.

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sounds to me like a bunch of broke little kids arguing over something they can't afford either ways or no reason to care cause obviously they own no stock in either company.
Thanks for your helpful contribution to this thread.

And if you must know, I'll be buying a 4870X2 the day it comes out after witnessing first hand the performance of my 4850.

And I'll be buying a Phenom to complete my platform the day they don't suck anymore.
Edited by HugeDink - 7/3/08 at 1:52pm
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This decision may also have some implications for AMD. Realistically, AMD has a six-month advantage over Nvidia in terms of API support right now and also appears to have competitive hardware in place as well. If AMD plays this game smart, it should be able to regain market share, as the 4800 series may be the more attractive technology for computer graphics at this time – at least for those of us with a limited budget.

Oh, and we almost forgot: Nvidia will also switch to GDDR5 memory, most likely within 2008. As GDDR5 chips are more available we expect first Nvidia GDDR5 cards to hit the market in Q4.
Uhm biased much damn. I mean your kinda just supposed to report the facts instead of throw your biased in there. Calling ATI cards only good if you're cheap. 2 ati cards for $300 beat nVidia's card for $600.

Not even one crack at nVidia for copying ATi with the move to GDDR5 because of the increase bandwidth and speed from the new memory. Just that nVidia wants to move to it even though they've been pretty much saying no and it's not going to work until ATI makes the breakthrough with it. Great job...
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post #25 of 54
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Same story from NV always...

"Our next generation will be 1.5x to 2x the performance of the current generation cards."

I don't believe it for a second. Marketing crap, and not very well thought out at that either.
LOL true I bet they will be 20 percent faster at best
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post #27 of 54
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It would take you about 15 minutes to learn everything I know about video cards. It's not hard.

There were 4 (will be 5) cards:
9600GSO
9600GT
9800GTX
9800GX2
and there will soon be a 9800GTX+

its a fairly complete series.

And you are mistaken. the original 8 series was 90nm (8800GTX and 8800GTS320+540) then they came out with the 8800GT and 8800GTS 512 which were 65nm, then they decided it would be better to rebrand these cards as the 9-series ("a complete new series that is supposedly much faster") rather than just calling them the 8850s or 8900s.

I wouldn't put rebranding a 55nm GTX280 as a GTX380 past nvidia any day, or any second of the week.

And this is most-likely exactly what they are going to do.
Thank you for correcting my previous mistakes but that still does not excuse the rest of your comments. At this point everything you are saying is speculation. I HIGHLY doubt nvidia is going to just do a die shrink. They are obviously are learning from their mistake right now and they are not going to do the entire GTX 200 series over again when it failed so bad. Any refusal to understand that IS fanboyism. Nvidia will not make the same mistake twice.

(I hope)

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Uhm biased much damn. I mean your kinda just supposed to report the facts instead of throw your biased in there. Calling ATI cards only good if you're cheap. 2 ati cards for $300 beat nVidia's card for $600.

Not even one crack at nVidia for copying ATi with the move to GDDR5 because of the increase bandwidth and speed from the new memory. Just that nVidia wants to move to it even though they've been pretty much saying no and it's not going to work until ATI makes the breakthrough with it. Great job...
Companies always copy each other, that's like saying ati copied nvidia with crossfire when nvidia made SLI first. Other people may come up with a better idea then you, and then you must go with it. Also, Ati cards are good for a lower budget, that much is true, but if you are into wasting money, Nvidia does have that crown I'm afraid.
Edited by Croft - 7/3/08 at 1:58pm
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post #28 of 54
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Uhm biased much damn. I mean your kinda just supposed to report the facts instead of throw your biased in there. Calling ATI cards only good if you're cheap. 2 ati cards for $300 beat nVidia's card for $600.

Not even one crack at nVidia for copying ATi with the move to GDDR5 because of the increase bandwidth and speed from the new memory. Just that nVidia wants to move to it even though they've been pretty much saying no and it's not going to work until ATI makes the breakthrough with it. Great job...
Mmm, GDDR5 part is interesting! So if one of the company decides to further improve bandwidth what options do they have? nVidia - GDDR5, ATI - 512-bit bus. So none is copying none. And GTX 280 supposedly will drop to 500$.
post #29 of 54
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Thank you for correcting my previous mistakes but that still does not excuse the rest of your comments. At this point everything you are saying is speculation. I HIGHLY doubt nvidia is going to just do a die shrink. They are obviously are learning from their mistake right now and they are not going to do the entire GTX 200 series over again when it failed so bad. Any refusal to understand that IS fanboyism. Nvidia will not make the same mistake twice.

(I hope)



Companies always copy each other, that's like saying ati copied nvidia with crossfire when nvidia made SLI first. Other people may come up with a better idea then you, and then you must go with it. Also, Ati cards are good for a lower budget, that much is true, but if you are into wasting money, Nvidia does have that crown I'm afraid.
now THAT got me loling. Anyways, all this talk from nvidia is getting tiresome. Just keep talking the talk nvidia, you're half way there right now.
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Thank you for correcting my previous mistakes but that still does not excuse the rest of your comments. At this point everything you are saying is speculation. I HIGHLY doubt nvidia is going to just do a die shrink. They are obviously are learning from their mistake right now and they are not going to do the entire GTX 200 series over again when it failed so bad. Any refusal to understand that IS fanboyism. Nvidia will not make the same mistake twice.

(I hope)
You think they won't make the same mistake twice, I think they might. It's just two different points of view. Being a fanboy or not has nothing to do with any of this. Everything I'm saying is speculation, but everything you're saying is too.

And as for excusing my other comments?

You called me a blind fanboy, I called you an Idiotic 12 year old.

I'd say we're even.
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