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Nvidia’s new GPU generation, we hear, will also be 1.5 to 2 times faster than the current technology.
Wow, I feel sorry for anybody who went and bought three GTX 280s for tri-sli!! They're going to be decked by nvidia and then kicked while they're down!!

DX10.1 and 2x the performance! I would be so pissed!
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ATI and Blizzard have Nvidia shaking in their boots.
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You think they won't make the same mistake twice, I think they might. It's just two different points of view. Being a fanboy or not has nothing to do with any of this. Everything I'm saying is speculation, but everything you're saying is too.

And as for excusing my other comments?

You called me a blind fanboy, I called you an Idiotic 12 year old.

I'd say we're even.
HAHA oh wow you just keep going. I'm calling you a fanboy because you are so adamantly apposed to any success of nvidia. You're calling me 11... why? Because I disagree with you? If you want to keep your pointless mindless insulting then PM me and we can set up a place to meet, because arguing over the Internet is for *mentally handicap people*.

Any way, back on topic. I theorize that the next generation of nvidia cards will be good, but they will have lost so much ground to ati at the time that they will be neck and neck with them. The whole GTX200 series was such a mistake. *Bangs head against the wall*. They might never regain the glory they had with the 8 series.
Edited by Croft - 7/3/08 at 2:11pm
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HAHA oh wow you just keep going. I'm calling you a fanboy because you are so adamantly apposed to any success of nvidia. You're calling me 11... why? Because I disagree with you? If you want to keep your pointless mindless insulting then PM me and we can set up a place to meet, because arguing over the Internet is for *mentally handicap people*.
something about quitting while you're ahead. Let's drop it .
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HAHA oh wow you just keep going. I'm calling you a fanboy because you are so adamantly apposed to any success of nvidia. You're calling me 11... why? Because I disagree with you? If you want to keep your pointless mindless insulting then PM me and we can set up a place to meet, because arguing over the Internet is for *mentally handicap people*.
How come every ATI/Nvidia thread you post in always erupts in flames?
Seriously
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post #36 of 54
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It would take you about 15 minutes to learn everything I know about video cards. It's not hard.

There were 4 (will be 5) cards:
9600GSO
9600GT
9800GTX
9800GX2
and there will soon be a 9800GTX+

its a fairly complete series.
Speaking of which...

What happened to the 9500GT that was supposedly going to come out but never did?
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Nvidia’s new GPU generation, we hear, will also be 1.5 to 2 times faster than the current technology.

Nvidia's new generation GPU is not going to be just die shrink.
Considering that die shrinks and renames are nvidias new business plan..
I don't think you could be more wrong.

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Any way, back on topic. I theorize that the next generation of nvidia cards will be good, but they will have lost so much ground to ati at the time that they will be neck and neck with them. The whole GTX200 series was such a mistake. *Bangs head against the wall*. They might never regain the glory they had with the 8 series.
Why bang your head against a wall if your not a fanboy? :s
Edited by [FH415] LOKI - 7/3/08 at 2:15pm
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Speaking of which...

What happened to the 9500GT that was supposedly going to come out but never did?
Nvidia didn't feel like rebranding an 8600GT as the 9500GT perhaps?

Nah, I really have no idea. It would be nice to see some more cards on the lower-end, although with 9600GSO prices below $100, it's really hard to complain.
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Guys, holy crap relax. What's done is done. I know, it's hard for even the best of us nVidia fans to witness what is happening but we have been watching this train wreck happen for the last 3 months. nVidia rehashed old GPU's instead of progressing further with technology. It's just now that they are using something different. The G92 has been reused for what, 3 or 4 different cards? They should have used their edge while they had it sharp to come out with something that has great power but at a lower price. Sure, the top-end of nVidia is still on top (for now, and even those cards are in jeopardy), but the prices are awful. We all would have liked to see the GTX 280's start at $400 instead of $600+. The fact remains that every nVidia flagship for the past 4 years have been $600+, and that is just ridiculous.

I know I know, it's just silly to quarrel over friggin video cards. It's such a silly thing to argue about, seeing as there are MUCH more important things to debate. For some reason, us hardware enthusiasts have strayed from the fundamental values of computer building: to enjoy the computer for what it can do, to enjoy building the rig and getting a unique "feel" for each machine, and to remember each build with a light heart and humble reminiscence. We all need to stop, look back and ask ourselves "Did I argue about what video card was better when I was playing Medal of Honor: Allied Assault or Max Payne?" Did we argue about what video card was better when we were done building our first custom rig, sitting back and looking at what we have built to our liking, firing up the rig for the first time and being ecstatic when we heard its first POST beep?

If you answer Yes to any of those, you need to really look at why you are so into computer building. It's not about what piece of hardware is better for 3 months before it is "replaced" by a better piece. It's not about which video card can smash which video card. It's not about who owns what. It's about enjoying the rig while you have it.

Some people favor one brand over another. This is not uncommon. Some people prefer Nikon over Canon for their DSLR cameras. Some people prefer La-Z-Boy furniture over Lane furniture. It's all about what you feel comfortable with buying. I particularly like nVidia, because I have fond memories while using their video cards. The only ATI card I ever used was an X1800XT, which was a great card but the drivers were unstable and I would get constant BSOD's, so I stopped using it. Anyway, don't feel bad about choosing one brand over another. It's perfectly natural to do so, and don't let anyone tell you differently.

Another thing we need to look at is this supposed top rank of gaming. Technically, there is never a top rank long enough for us to bother shelling out hundreds or thousands of dollars in upgrades every year to keep "on top". You should grab a video card that you connect with, that just feels right and matches your system, and gives you enough performance to enjoy your games with. It doesn't have to be the top video card, because honestly, as long as you are getting at least 60 FPS for most of your games, they are playable and enjoyable. I remember when I was using an nVidia Vanta 16 Mb AGP video card, and I was getting like 18 FPS in Max Payne. The game was still enjoyable, I still loved playing it, and I never once complained.

You could spend thousands every 6 months to completely upgrade the system so you can get an extra 10 FPS on Crysis or an extra 50 FPS on a game that is already running at 100 FPS on a moderate system. Is that really worth all that money? Is it really? Imagine all of the money you would have saved if you upgraded every 2 years instead of every 6 months or every year. With the money saved, you could put new rims on your car, or buy a dog, or upgrade your cable service. If you right now are thinking "man I have all that, but I want to have the best system I could possibly own right when the new hardware comes out!", then I'm afraid you have become lost along the way. You have been pulled into the depths of marketing, as I once did.

It took the help of my wife to really see that what I was into wasn't the enjoyment of building systems that I once had, but a nervous need to have the best of the best all of the time. She asked me last night "is that how you felt all those years ago when you built your first rig?" And then it hit me. No. I was just happy to have a computer that played games! I was thrilled to have a system that I built myself, to say that I have a system that I wanted without all the extra junk that Dell throws in. I was happy, without worry, without needing to be on top, and I enjoyed every minute I spent on that system.
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Nvidia would need to come up with an entirely new architecture for even just a die shrink to make sense, the 4800 series cards have over 3 times the shader processors in an erea more than half the size, 55nm from 65nm IS STILL ABOUT TWICE AS BIG, itll probably eat nearly the same power, but because of slightly higher clocks ( woopty doo )

G80 was awesome, but look at what they did with it, they shot it with a shrink ray and gave it more SP's. at least AMD this time around had the balls to kill the aging ( yes a year is old @ comps ) ring bus for a higher bandwidth lower latency control hub.

AMD seems to be in the "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" attitude

GT200 = more memory interface to receive a wider band of memory modules.

Nvidia seems to be in the "Screw it, lets milk as much out of it as we can" attitude.

Unless they can really turn their architecture around, i cant see them going very far.
Ive been impressed by the early life of the architecture, but nowadays theres still NOTHING NEW about it, NOTHING.
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