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Whatever the MSRP is I doubt supply can keep up with demand. Retailers may just put a markup on them, no matter what ATI _wants_ them to cost.
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Whatever the MSRP is I doubt supply can keep up with demand. Retailers may just put a markup on them, no matter what ATI _wants_ them to cost.
*cough* newegg *cough*
    
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A Russian you don't understand the equation of what supply and demand is.
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A Russian you don't understand the equation of what supply and demand is.
he's agreeing with what was quoted man

newegg has a tendency *because they're a bigdog* to maybe go a little above the MSRP sometimes.

and they're still my number one choice when it comes to buying parts
    
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newegg has a tendency *because they're a bigdog* to maybe go a little above the MSRP sometimes.

and they're still my number one choice when it comes to buying parts
Yes, but newegg's "Free shipping on nearly everything" policy makes their total costs usually equal to or below other retailers'. Also, IME, they have more mail-in rebate and combo deal offers than anywhere else, and tend to keep up better with price drops (ex: the GTX280 has already dropped $100).

Speaking of the price drops on the 200 series, this may provide more pressure for ATI to set the 4870x2 at a lower base price to keep their lead in the price-to-performance ratio, as well as allow OEMs to release it earlier. I'm assuming they will be on shelves (or at least on Newegg) by the end of July. It may still be a good idea to wait until August (if you can ) and see if there are any more price drops due to this competition. I can see the GTX200s dropping another $50 at least within the next few weeks, which would put them on par roughly with ATI...but then, ATI's new cards have much more overclocking headroom so we may see manufacturer-OCd versions released soon as well.

In calling which of these cards will "win" this round, I would have said ATI for sure a week ago, but with nVidia willing to drop their prices, we may now have a more level playing field. I think the performance on both of these cards is still underquoted by quite a bit due to premature drivers and non-optimized games, so it's really hard to compare the performance of the GTX280 to the original 4870, but so far it looks like ATI still has the upper hand in price-to-performance (if the 4870x2 really goes for $500). If nothing else, having two fairly matched cards this time will certainly be good for all of us, as we're already seeing the prices start to drop.
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Was wondering what that 2GB could possibly be used for and then I read this:

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In terms of performance, the Radeon 2900XT 1GB rendered Transformers scenes in 20-30 frames per second, in 720p resolution and no Anti-Aliasing. With the Radeon 3870, the test scene jumped to 60 fps, with a drop to 20 fps when the proprietary Anti-Aliasing algorithm was applied. Urbach mentioned that the Radeon 4870 hits the same 60 fps - and stays at that level with Anti-Aliasing (a ray-tracer is not expecting more than 60 fps.) JulesWorld’s technology also works on Nvidia GeForce 8800 cards and above, but the lack of a tessellation unit causes a bit more work on the ray-tracer side.
Watch Out, Larrabee: Radeon 4800 Supports A 100% Ray-traced Pipeline Using DirectX 9


Suddenly my 2900XT's seem to have a bit more life in them. 20-30 FPS is playable and I don't use AA anyway
Edited by Jarhead - 7/5/08 at 12:03pm
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i hope the 4870x2 does really well in CFX.
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A Russian you don't understand the equation of what supply and demand is.
And prehaps you fail to realise that being an oligopoly AMD will not price and supply at the intersections of the Marginal Revenue and Marginal Cost curves and therefore your supply and demand idea suddenly seems a little silly Prehaps you should actually study economics before making such claims. Clearly considering the current market situation for both Ati and Nvidia it is not in eithers interest to interact with the market in a supply and demand sence
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Epic.
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And prehaps you fail to realise that being an oligopoly AMD will not price and supply at the intersections of the Marginal Revenue and Marginal Cost curves and therefore your supply and demand idea suddenly seems a little silly Prehaps you should actually study economics before making such claims. Clearly considering the current market situation for both Ati and Nvidia it is not in eithers interest to interact with the market in a supply and demand sence
say what?
   
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