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@microman and fencefeet: Crysis, Assassin's Creed, and Oblivion (to name three) all stutter badly when I turn the settings up. One of the big reasons that I play games is to see the really cool graphics and when I have to turn down the settings to get good frame rates, it kinda ruins the experience. We have to remember that I'm playing on a card that's more than three and a half years old.

+rep for both of you
oh and btw i wasn't trying to imply that you can play all games maxed out, i know you must be struggling, all i was saying is that if you waited just a little bit longer you would have a setup like no other.

but like i said, now you don't have to wait, just do the tri-fire plan.
hope that i helped. good luck
post #32 of 42
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One 4870 is only 10-15% slower than one 280gtx
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So right there is way better price/performance, 2 for 140 more will give about 50% better performance than a single 280 .
Well, this doesn't seem to be the overall trend.

@op: comparing the games in which you expressed interest, let me throw some test numbers out there:

Look here for the review that this was taken from. Anandtech, considered very reliable.

Looks like the memory and bigger cache is helpful at high resolutions for gt200, but 4800 doesn't have bad high res performance either. This was a clear victory for 4870 CF before these new gt200 prices. now this is hard. 280 is a bomb single card and SLI will be faster, but 4870x2 is 2 months away....

I vote either a single 280, or 4870 and multi GPU later. Also, 24" monitors are definitely worth it!!
    
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seeing as you have an SLi Mobo it could be a problem crossfiring 2 4870's
he said ignore his sig rig
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I agree with the fellas, wait until after the 4870x2 comes out, see how Nvidia responds, maybe the 280gtx will be even cheaper then.
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If you want to you can either go for the gtx280 now or the 4870 and SLi or Crossfire them down the line when they get a little cheaper if waiting for the 4870X2 is an issue. Just remember though these cards have a high resell value so if u ever wanted to jump the gun on something else better you won't take a big loss selling it to upgrade.
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Can you put a 4870 and a 4870x2 in CF like that?

Plus, I hear that the 4870x2 isn't coming until the end of August, which is nearly two months from now. I need to get this build done by August 18th before I go to college.
The HD4870x2 is being prepared for a 4th week of July release. Expect mass availability to be in early-mid august.

Pick up a CF motherboard and a single 4870, then grab the 4870x2 when it comes out.
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I say either get the GTX 280 now or wait till the HD4870X2 comes in a few weeks. As some have been saying one GPU is less hassle then 2 in CF or SLI.
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Id go the 2x4870 because its 2 GPU's for $200 more. They proform better also
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If you can get a GTX 280 for around $450ish or so, that's definitely a lot of bang for the buck, "new" prices should be going into effect for the gtx 260/280 next week from what I've read.

NVIDIA has much much better drivers as far as stability goes. I am not a fanboy at all, I go with whatever's better at the time.... I just switched from a SLI 8800gt setup and I've had no issues whatsoever with compatibility/drivers/reinstalling/etc... With the two ATi cards, I get more performance, but the tradeoff is a few minor headaches. Maybe it's just me, but be prepared to put in a few extra minutes with the ATI cards, especially when updating drivers.

the gtx 280 looks very impressive though. However, if you're thinking about SLI down the line, read about the insane power consumptions of that card...I hope you have a 1000 watt or so PSU in your budget if you plan to go that route down the line.
Power issues aside, you're going to be watercooling the card. On air, it's a damn good overclocker, check some reviews, the overclocks actually offer very very significant performance increases....so I'd say factor in at least a good 20% performance increase with w/c overclocks.

the ATI cards seem to offer much better hardware that really shouldn't be running as well as it is for the price, but it does! I mean I picked up the 2 cards for $300 total, and they plow through everythnig no problem... of course the tradeoff is, as i mentioned above, is some minor headaches...
I can't speak for the 4870 series cards, but I assume I'd have a similar experience with them...just a bit faster. The cards run really cool with aftermaket air cooling for me..
IF I was to go the ATI route, I'd just go the plain 4870 Crossfire route, rather then 4870x2 in Crossfire. The less GPUs the better to get the job done, even if it's a minor performance hit in my opinnion. 4 GPUs aren't going to offer as much of an increase as you're hoping for the $

All in all, just my views/experiences, take them as you will.
A month ago I would of said 100% go ATI, now with the gtx280 at around $450, possibly even less next week, I'd say either way you go, you're gona have a beastly rig...
a water cooled gtx 280 sounds good to me, but so does a 4870 in crossfire
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Well, this doesn't seem to be the overall trend.

@op: comparing the games in which you expressed interest, let me throw some test numbers out there:
for the review that this was taken from. Anandtech, considered very reliable.

Looks like the memory and bigger cache is helpful at high resolutions for gt200, but 4800 doesn't have bad high res performance either. This was a clear victory for 4870 CF before these new gt200 prices. now this is hard. 280 is a bomb single card and SLI will be faster, but 4870x2 is 2 months away....

I vote either a single 280, or 4870 and multi GPU later. Also, 24" monitors are definitely worth it!!
Wow, thanks for the extensive help! +rep


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If you can get a GTX 280 for around $450ish or so, that's definitely a lot of bang for the buck, "new" prices should be going into effect for the gtx 260/280 next week from what I've read.

NVIDIA has much much better drivers as far as stability goes. I am not a fanboy at all, I go with whatever's better at the time.... I just switched from a SLI 8800gt setup and I've had no issues whatsoever with compatibility/drivers/reinstalling/etc... With the two ATi cards, I get more performance, but the tradeoff is a few minor headaches. Maybe it's just me, but be prepared to put in a few extra minutes with the ATI cards, especially when updating drivers.

the gtx 280 looks very impressive though. However, if you're thinking about SLI down the line, read about the insane power consumptions of that card...I hope you have a 1000 watt or so PSU in your budget if you plan to go that route down the line.
Power issues aside, you're going to be watercooling the card. On air, it's a damn good overclocker, check some reviews, the overclocks actually offer very very significant performance increases....so I'd say factor in at least a good 20% performance increase with w/c overclocks.

the ATI cards seem to offer much better hardware that really shouldn't be running as well as it is for the price, but it does! I mean I picked up the 2 cards for $300 total, and they plow through everythnig no problem... of course the tradeoff is, as i mentioned above, is some minor headaches...
I can't speak for the 4870 series cards, but I assume I'd have a similar experience with them...just a bit faster. The cards run really cool with aftermaket air cooling for me..
IF I was to go the ATI route, I'd just go the plain 4870 Crossfire route, rather then 4870x2 in Crossfire. The less GPUs the better to get the job done, even if it's a minor performance hit in my opinnion. 4 GPUs aren't going to offer as much of an increase as you're hoping for the $

All in all, just my views/experiences, take them as you will.
A month ago I would of said 100% go ATI, now with the gtx280 at around $450, possibly even less next week, I'd say either way you go, you're gona have a beastly rig...
a water cooled gtx 280 sounds good to me, but so does a 4870 in crossfire
Thanks for our input! You guys are really helpful. This is a tough decision! Maybe I'll order my case and get it all set up with water cooling, then see how the prices are in two weeks. Thanks again! +reps
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