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Im looking for a set of headsets... and I really need some help as I cant find what I want...

Im looking for something that has true 5.1 support for gaming, good sound quality, and a microphone on the headphone itself... And I realllly prefer closed ear to isolate noise

And Ive asked in other places and get bashed for asking for 5.1.... if you can't deal with it, DO NOT POST

edit: Just to clarify: by TRUE 5.1, I mean the headphones use my own soundcard - not USB
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dont hesitate and get sennheiser hd 595 im wearing them right now read reviews anywhere they are absolutely amazing they are open ear so other people can listen to what your listening if you want closed get the sennheiser hd 280 pro i have them also amazing

just get a stand a lone mic or whatever dude
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dont hesitate and get sennheiser hd 595 im wearing them right now read reviews anywhere they are absolutely amazing they are open ear so other people can listen to what your listening if you want closed get the sennheiser hd 280 pro i have them also amazing

just get a stand a lone mic or whatever dude
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Connector 3.5mm/ USB
USB soundcard with 7.1 virtual surround
Surround sound through USB does not work
    
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Just to clarify: by TRUE 5.1, I mean the headphones use my own soundcard - not USB
    
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The USB cards in the headsets are going to be just as good as your onboard audio (and will provide "true" 5.1), no reason to limit yourself there unless you're planning on upgrading the soundcard at some point.

I don't really understand why you're asking here at all though, we've already told you it's a really stupid decision to buy a 5.1 headset, and that it will provide worse sound, even worse positioning sound, then a normal pair of headphones.
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The USB cards in the headsets are going to be just as good as your onboard audio (and will provide "true" 5.1), no reason to limit yourself there unless you're planning on upgrading the soundcard at some point.

I don't really understand why you're asking here at all though, we've already told you it's a really stupid decision to buy a 5.1 headset, and that it will provide worse sound, even worse positioning sound, then a normal pair of headphones.
I cant enable 5.1 sound on my last USB surround sound headset so I really don't want to waste money again...

As for the surround sound thing - I don't understand how a 2 speaker setup gives better positioning than multi speaker setups...simply by sound quality? I still cant figure out how that works! As for 5.1 sound - ive messed with it on my friends system and there is somewhat of a noticeable difference in positioning of sounds
    
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The 5.1 headphones have more speakers, but they are still in the small space of a headphone cup, and really don't provide surround sound like a speaker system would. Also you are going to have to take into account that the companies making the 5.1 headphones tend to be going towards the gamer market that blindly buys gaming equipment without matching it against non-gaming equipment, so they only care about the speaker quality vs their gaming competitors, and not that of established high-quality headphone companies. The speakers in the 5.1 headsets tend to be low-quality compared to a similarly priced stereo set.

Since you aren't going to be able to get full "real" surround sound that a speaker system would provide, you're going to have to settle for the next best thing. I'm not sure of the exact purpose you are trying to use them for, but I'm sure you were already made aware that the difference will be night and day in music listening, so I'll skip that for now.

With gaming, you are going to want to be able to pick up the footsteps clearly and distinctly above all the shooting and other noises, and also be able to hear both your teammate walking by you to the right and the enemy that's running up to knife you in the back. I personally don't think you're going to be able to get that kind of clarity from a 5.1 headphone.

The Xi-Fi and most other sound cards have surround processing for stereo systems that works quite well, I think you will find that the 5.1 with the stereo headphones actually sounds more like 5.1 then the 5.1 headphones do themselves.

To put a nail in the coffin, lets look at the design of stereo headphones. There really isn't a lot of room in there, a common design will be something like pictured on the right of this page: http://www.cybersnipa.com/us/product...ng-headset.php. As you can see, all the speakers are grouped together, and really aren't offering anything in placement over the normal stereo speakers. Sure, you might get a tiny bit better stereo effect from the multiple speakers, but the effect is actually going to be just as good with the stereo processing a sound card provides. In fact, you could even have a WORSE stereo effect on the 5.1 set, as the sound coming out is presuming the speakers are in places they are not.

Basically a 5.1 headset is like taking a 5.1 system, splitting the center speaker in half, then bunching them all up directly to your right and left. Honestly, it's just a marketing gimmick and nothing more. This is why everyone immediately recommends that you buy a quality stereo set instead of wasting your money on a 5.1 headphone.
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The 5.1 headphones have more speakers, but they are still in the small space of a headphone cup, and really don't provide surround sound like a speaker system would. Also you are going to have to take into account that the companies making the 5.1 headphones tend to be going towards the gamer market that blindly buys gaming equipment without matching it against non-gaming equipment, so they only care about the speaker quality vs their gaming competitors, and not that of established high-quality headphone companies. The speakers in the 5.1 headsets tend to be low-quality compared to a similarly priced stereo set.

Since you aren't going to be able to get full "real" surround sound that a speaker system would provide, you're going to have to settle for the next best thing. I'm not sure of the exact purpose you are trying to use them for, but I'm sure you were already made aware that the difference will be night and day in music listening, so I'll skip that for now.

With gaming, you are going to want to be able to pick up the footsteps clearly and distinctly above all the shooting and other noises, and also be able to hear both your teammate walking by you to the right and the enemy that's running up to knife you in the back. I personally don't think you're going to be able to get that kind of clarity from a 5.1 headphone.

The Xi-Fi and most other sound cards have surround processing for stereo systems that works quite well, I think you will find that the 5.1 with the stereo headphones actually sounds more like 5.1 then the 5.1 headphones do themselves.

To put a nail in the coffin, lets look at the design of stereo headphones. There really isn't a lot of room in there, a common design will be something like pictured on the right of this page: http://www.cybersnipa.com/us/product...ng-headset.php. As you can see, all the speakers are grouped together, and really aren't offering anything in placement over the normal stereo speakers. Sure, you might get a tiny bit better stereo effect from the multiple speakers, but the effect is actually going to be just as good with the stereo processing a sound card provides. In fact, you could even have a WORSE stereo effect on the 5.1 set, as the sound coming out is presuming the speakers are in places they are not.

Basically a 5.1 headset is like taking a 5.1 system, splitting the center speaker in half, then bunching them all up directly to your right and left. Honestly, it's just a marketing gimmick and nothing more. This is why everyone immediately recommends that you buy a quality stereo set instead of wasting your money on a 5.1 headphone.
Thanks for the clarification
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