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[NH]NVIDIA has something to beat Radeon HD 4870X2

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Things are not really as expected over at NVIDIA. The tide has turned and the people have taken the Radeon HD 4800 series to their hearts. Somehow just having the fastest card around didn't pan out. NVIDIA is firm in its belief though and from we've heard it has another card that will dethrone Radeon HD 4870X2 when it arrives (we do expect 4870X2 to take GeForce GTX 280 and so does NVIDIA apparently). It has not been confirmed, but it may very well be something 55nm, most likely G200b. Since Radeon HD 4870X2 is slated for late August, we should see NVIDIA's new monster around when the moon starts another lap and August turn into September.
Hmm, interesting. But what will the prices be like?

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Edited by sledgehammer1990 - 7/6/08 at 3:48pm
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Let's see it. =]
    
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280GX2 (GT200b)?
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For all his ranting and childish demeanor Charlie at the Inq was right.. Again.

Will a 55nm shrink be enough? How do the two GPUs on the X2 board communicate? If it's just regular crossfire on a stick Nvidia might match them.
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I thought that this was supposed to be the 9800GTX+?

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Lower prices for us!!!! Hopefully
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I thought that this was supposed to be the 9800GTX+?

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The 9800GTX+ is a 4850 competitor.. Not a 4870 competitor let alone 4870X2.
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Word has come out of Satan Clara that the yields are laughable. No, make that abysmal, they are 40 per cent. To add insult to injury, that 40 per cent includes both the 280 and the 260 yield salvage parts. With about 100 die candidates per wafer, that means 40 good dice per wafer. Doing the maths, a TSMC 300mm 65nm wafer runs about $5000, so that means each good die costs $125 before packaging, testing and the like. If they can get away with sub-$150 costs per GPU, we will be impressed.
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The answer to that is to tape out the GT200b yesterday. It has taped out, and it is a little more than 400mm^2 on a TSMC 55nm process. Given that TSMC tends to price things so that on an equivalent area basis, the new process is marginally cheaper than the old, don't look for much cost saving there. Any decrease in defectivity due to smaller area is almost assuredly going to be balanced out by the learning curve on the new process. Being overly generous, it is still hard to see how the GT200b will cost less than $100 per chip. Don't look for much cost savings there.

The GT200b will be out in late summer or early fall, instantly obsoleting the GT200. Anyone buying the 65nm version will end up with a lemon, a slow, hot and expensive lemon. Kind of like the 5800. It would suck for NV if word of this got out. Ooops, sorry.
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Edit i have a question does the price of die include with the VDDR or is the more $$
Edited by A Russian :D - 7/6/08 at 3:59pm
    
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