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2. Thats a given, we wont use amd cpus on Intel chipsets
3. The price drop came from crazy to feasible, they'll have to price drop yet again to when the R700 comes out. And how does lifetime warrany have to do with anything? Visiontek offers a lifetime warranty now btw and 4870 certainly does not use more power than GTX 280. If your thinking of the 4870x2 they yes there's a chance maybe it would reach a TDP 225+.
Well it does use less power on idle, which is about 75% of the time or more for just about anybody.

Source: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardw...s-review.ars/7
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maybe if priced well
No I mean I dont think a 280+ could beat a 4850x2 in fps, theyll probably match each other in cost.
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Everytime Nvidia comes out with a chipset everyone goes on and on about how this one is better than the last and how it will finally compete with Intel. Every time they are wrong.

Intel chipsets should be used with Intel CPU's.

Nvidia's GPU department isn't in as bad a shape as everyone claims. The GTX280 is still fast and with the price drop to $499 isn't as bad of a deal as $650. Yes on a price to performance ratio the 4870 is better. But the 4870 will never come with a lifetime warranty than the GTX280, and the GTX280 is still faster. The 4870 uses more power too.

You won't see me buying either one of these new toys (GTX280 GTX260, 4870, or 4870X2), but for the high end they are all good.

I suspect a 55nm GT200b will compete with the RV770. Hopefully they will drop the 512 bit bus and go with 1GB GDDR5 as well.

My 3870s have lifetime warrenties
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post #24 of 79
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Originally Posted by pauldovi View Post
Everytime Nvidia comes out with a chipset everyone goes on and on about how this one is better than the last and how it will finally compete with Intel. Every time they are wrong.

Intel chipsets should be used with Intel CPU's.

Nvidia's GPU department isn't in as bad a shape as everyone claims. The GTX280 is still fast and with the price drop to $499 isn't as bad of a deal as $650. Yes on a price to performance ratio the 4870 is better. But the 4870 will never come with a lifetime warranty than the GTX280, and the GTX280 is still faster. The 4870 uses more power too.

You won't see me buying either one of these new toys (GTX280 GTX260, 4870, or 4870X2), but for the high end they are all good.

I suspect a 55nm GT200b will compete with the RV770. Hopefully they will drop the 512 bit bus and go with 1GB GDDR5 as well.

Well first off your wrong about the chipset. It's a great chipset. What's wrong with it is physical. The cooler SUCKS. Has nothing to do with the chipset.
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Single PCB 280GX2, just watch.
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post #26 of 79
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Will a 55nm shrink be enough?
Well, according to Charlie, it will bring the die size down to slightly over 400mm^2. Depending on the power/heat reductions that the die shrink provides, a dual-PCB GX2 model might be possible, but I think that even at 55nm, power requirements will still be an issue for putting two on one card. Even if they do manage to come out with one, it will be prohibitively expensive, probably even more so than the usual Ultra models. Given this, I think that their response lies somewhere else than with multi-GPU products, because ultimately a GX2 model that's too expensive isn't going to have a huge effect.

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The new shrink will be a much better chip though, mainly because they might fix the crippling clock rate problems of the older part. This is most likely not a speed path problem but a heat/power issue. If you get a better perf/watt number through better process tech, you can either keep performance the same and lower net power use, or keep power use the same and raise performance.
^^ That would be my guess as to how they will respond as well.

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Originally Posted by bowman
How do the two GPUs on the X2 board communicate? If it's just regular crossfire on a stick Nvidia might match them.
The interesting thing here is that it isn't the standard CrossFire-on-a-stick, and there's a reputable souce behind that:
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ml#post4106707
Edited by darkcloud89 - 7/6/08 at 5:38pm
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Even with the 55nm die shrink it would take a 4 slot cooler do get rid of the heat a GTX280GX2 would make.
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Single PCB 280GX2, just watch.
haha, that would be cool and upwards of 14" but they would face memory bottlenecks if they don't do a 2x512 bus......and that would make the card the most complex pcb on the planet. i just don't see it happening.....nvidia has had little success with SLI-On-A-Card designs

imagine the e-peen though, TOO much e-peen.....
    
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Who knows maybe they will surprise us with something big like a GTX280x2 or something.
 
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Who knows maybe they will surprise us with something big like a GTX280x2 or something.
and Ati's counter will be the 4870 x4 :O
    
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