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hold on which website did you see the power consumption between the 2 ?
lol no answer.
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Hmm, interesting. But what will the prices be like?
My thoughts exactly. Perhaps I'm only bitter because I don't have $600 to spend on a graphics card each time a new one is released, but other than bragging rights for a few people (which, imho, wouldn't recoup costs for nvidia's R&D of a new super card), I don't see why people are spending their cash right now on nvidia's graphics cards with so many great cards out now that max out nearly any game at popular resolutions. I'm no fanboy--I go for the best price/performance--but I'm getting the impression that unless nivida drastically changes their pricing schemes, they might have a lot of products that no one will really buy...perhaps they overestimated themselves this time?
    
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hold on which website did you see the power consumption between the 2 ?
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lol no answer.
http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...rived/?page=12
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...=expert&pid=12
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=22
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14990/15
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/148...ire/index.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/734/18/
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2321641,00.asp
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.ph...=13972&page=21
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardw...s-review.ars/7
http://www.chw.net/Revisiones/Tarjet...6252037/7.html
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==
(probably biased towards nvidia, given HardOCP's love of them and the fact it matches no other reviews)

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...review--asus/5
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...review-test/11
Since they don't compare the 4870 and GTX280 in these last two articles from Guru3D I'll list them myself:

@load:
Radeon HD 4870 : 334 Watt
GTX280: 363 Watt

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At the end of the day, the results can be a bit all over the place sometimes, but *i think* (may not be true, definitely not claiming it is) that the 4870 is near the GTX280 in power consumption most of the time.
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http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...rived/?page=12
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...=expert&pid=12
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=22
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14990/15
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/148...ire/index.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/734/18/
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2321641,00.asp
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.ph...=13972&page=21
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardw...s-review.ars/7
http://www.chw.net/Revisiones/Tarjet...6252037/7.html
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==
(probably biased towards nvidia, given HardOCP's love of them and the fact it matches no other reviews)

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...review--asus/5
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...review-test/11
Since they don't compare the 4870 and GTX280 in these last two articles from Guru3D I'll list them myself:

@load:
Radeon HD 4870 : 334 Watt
GTX280: 363 Watt

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At the end of the day, the results can be a bit all over the place sometimes, but *i think* (may not be true, definitely not claiming it is) that the 4870 is near the GTX280 in power consumption most of the time.
But the 280 IS less at idle in pretty much every test, and I would like to to clock how long your gfx card is doing very very little (aka browsing OCN) and how long it is truely at load (aka when you are heavy gaming) and tell me which one is more of the time
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Where did all this concern for power requirements and heat output come from? Something tells me, hardcore and mid/high-end users aren't generally that concerned with power consumption or heat output so long as (a) the card runs, and (b) it doesn't overheat or cause overheating problems--both things that the user can probably easily address themselves. Besides, if a card requires more power, someone who typically buys such a card will undoubtedly upgrade their PSU/rig to get the most out of the card anyway. Just my feelings on that issue.
    
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But the 280 IS less at idle in pretty much every test, and I would like to to clock how long your gfx card is doing very very little (aka browsing OCN) and how long it is truely at load (aka when you are heavy gaming) and tell me which one is more of the time
It's likely a problem with the drivers not letting the HD48 go into correct 2D clocks.

The idle power amount does mean that the HD4870 uses more power than the GTX280 in average computing. At 2hours of gaming, and 22 hours of idle, the HD4870 uses 5.036 KW and the GTX280, 4.126 KW, or roughly a dime a day more for the HD4870.
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a dime a day is only about $36 a year, still not making up the cost between the two cards
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Nvidia's GPU department isn't in as bad a shape as everyone claims. The GTX280 is still fast and with the price drop to $499 isn't as bad of a deal as $650. Yes on a price to performance ratio the 4870 is better. But the 4870 will never come with a lifetime warranty than the GTX280, and the GTX280 is still faster. The 4870 uses more power too.
On the warranty VisionTek offers a lifetime warranty that covers everything but stupidity in essence.

http://www.visiontek.com/teksupport/..._warranty.html

On the Power usage a 4870 will consume a max of 157w while your beloved 280 can pull a ginormous ozone eating 236w.
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On the warranty VisionTek offers a lifetime warranty that covers everything but stupidity in essence.

http://www.visiontek.com/teksupport/..._warranty.html

On the Power usage a 4870 will consume a max of 157w while your beloved 280 can pull a ginormous ozone eating 236w.
Careful now, that's only at load. You run idle most of the time. I compiled a chart to show the differences. The bolded numbers are when the ATI card pulls ahead (fewer watts) then the equal setup from nvidia. For example, after three hours of load time, the HD4850 uses less power than the GTX260. I used the AnandTech article for my data.



Addition: Made an easier to read graph:




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Careful now, that's only at load. You run idle most of the time. I compiled a chart to show the differences. The bolded numbers are when the ATI card pulls ahead (fewer watts) then the equal setup from nvidia. For example, after three hours of load time, the HD4850 uses less power than the GTX260.


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