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Hi I just built my new rig and here are my specs

Antec P182 Case
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CPU cooling:
Thermalright Ultimate Extreme 120 with Sharkoon 120mm @1800
Thermalpaste used: Mx2 from Arctic Cooling

My problem starts with my idle temps

CoreTemp Beta v 0.99,EverestUltimate 4.5 and HardwareMonitor 1.10.0 = 49 - 50°c

but with

RealTemp 2.60 it stays around 38-40°c.

I had planned to overclock my E8400 to atleast 3.6ghz - what everyone seems to do easily but with these idle temps

i'm afraid to do any overclock.

ps. i have tried mounting the HS atleast 3 times and always get same readings from temp...

I'm running out of ideas and losing all hope.

Can anyone tell me what i could do to maybe lower my temps.
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try everest ultimate it shows everything.
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OK. I'll repeat what I said over in the other thread....

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Originally Posted by Malici0us View Post
Hi i am new to overclocking but I wanna give it a try with my setup.

RealTemp 2.60 it stays around 38-40°c.

I had planned to overclock my E8400 to atleast 3.6ghz - what everyone seems to do easily but with these idle temps i'm afraid to do any overclock.

ps. i have tried mounting the HS atleast 3 times and always get same readings from temp...

I'm running out of ideas and losing all hope.

Can anyone tell me what i could do to maybe lower my temps.
A couple things. First of all RealTemp gives the accurate readings with that E8400. Are your ambient temps high? Like 80F?

When you apply the thermal compound you need to put a thin even layer right down the middle. Too much TIM and it actually acts as an insulator.
Here's an article on correct application of the TIM. http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appi..._dual_wcap.pdf

And if that doesn't help. The last straw would be to lap your CPU cooler. And to lap your CPU. That will definitely bring down temps.
    
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My E8400 idles around 39-40C, no big deal. Load temps are whats important. My idle temps are the same at 3.0GHz (1.22v) as they are at 3.8GHz (1.36v), but load at those speeds are 48C and up to 64C respectively (according to realtemp anyway).
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Originally Posted by JadeMiner View Post
OK. I'll repeat what I said over in the other thread....
A couple things. First of all RealTemp gives the accurate readings with that E8400. Are your ambient temps high? Like 80F?

When you apply the thermal compound you need to put a thin even layer right down the middle. Too much TIM and it actually acts as an insulator.
Here's an article on correct application of the TIM. http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appi..._dual_wcap.pdf

And if that doesn't help. The last straw would be to lap your CPU cooler. And to lap your CPU. That will definitely bring down temps.
interesting indeed yes if the accurate readings are from RealTemp 2.60 - That's what you are using aswell hehe ?

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Originally Posted by Jacko87 View Post
My E8400 idles around 39-40C, no big deal. Load temps are whats important. My idle temps are the same at 3.0GHz (1.22v) as they are at 3.8GHz (1.36v), but load at those speeds are 48C and up to 64C respectively (according to realtemp anyway).
..and are those readings from Real Temp 2.60 ?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacko87 View Post
My E8400 idles around 39-40C, no big deal. Load temps are whats important. My idle temps are the same at 3.0GHz (1.22v) as they are at 3.8GHz (1.36v), but load at those speeds are 48C and up to 64C respectively (according to realtemp anyway).
This is so true.
Malici0us,
My idle temps @ 3.6ghz = 37c (load 52c)
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f.../707Temp36.jpg
RealTemp 2.68
CoreTemp 99
Everest 4.5

I adjusted the TjMax to 95c on CoreTemp and Everest.
CoreTemp uses 105c and Everest 100c.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malici0us View Post
Hi I just built my new rig and here are my specs

Antec P182 Case
Intel Core 2 Duo Wolfdale E8400 @3.0GHz (9x333)
Tagan BZ Series 700W
Asus P5K Pro P35 chipset
Inno3d GeForce 9800GTX oc.
OCZ Platinium 800mhz 4GB 4-5-4-15 @400mhz
Seagate Barracuda 500GB
Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit

CPU cooling:
Thermalright Ultimate Extreme 120 with Sharkoon 120mm @1800
Thermalpaste used: Mx2 from Arctic Cooling

My problem starts with my idle temps

CoreTemp Beta v 0.99,EverestUltimate 4.5 and HardwareMonitor 1.10.0 = 49 - 50°c

but with

RealTemp 2.60 it stays around 38-40°c.

I had planned to overclock my E8400 to atleast 3.6ghz - what everyone seems to do easily but with these idle temps

i'm afraid to do any overclock.

ps. i have tried mounting the HS atleast 3 times and always get same readings from temp...

I'm running out of ideas and losing all hope.

Can anyone tell me what i could do to maybe lower my temps.
What's the room temperature?
Check to make sure all your fans are set correctly.
What's the BIOS show for temps?
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Originally Posted by JadeMiner View Post
A couple things. First of all RealTemp gives the accurate readings with that E8400. Are your ambient temps high? Like 80F?

When you apply the thermal compound you need to put a thin even layer right down the middle. Too much TIM and it actually acts as an insulator.
Here's an article on correct application of the TIM. http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appi..._dual_wcap.pdf

And if that doesn't help. The last straw would be to lap your CPU cooler. And to lap your CPU. That will definitely bring down temps.
My ambient temps? it says like this in bios:
CPU: 44°c/111°F
MB: 42°c/107

Lapping my HS would be an option yes - Haven't found the time to do that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kpo6969 View Post
This is so true.
Malici0us,
My idle temps @ 3.6ghz = 37c (load 52c)
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f.../707Temp36.jpg
RealTemp 2.68
CoreTemp 99
Everest 4.5

I adjusted the TjMax to 95c on CoreTemp and Everest.
CoreTemp uses 105c and Everest 100c.
Interesting. I'll configure my CoreTemp and Everest like yours

Quote:
Originally Posted by EricM9104 View Post
What's the room temperature?
Check to make sure all your fans are set correctly.
What's the BIOS show for temps?
Room Temp for today with door closed - curtains down and sun shining outside was around 26°c

Only fan I can monitor is CPU fan which is connected to MB. All the others are connected with molex and no monitoring for that I think. Could try MBconverters so I could connect to my MB instead. Not sure that would change much though.

Bios shows like I said above, CPU 44°c and MB 43°c

One another thing

- I have my specs like this:
cpu ratio:9.0
FSB strap: 333mhz
FSB: 333
PCIE: 100
DRAM: 800mhz 4-5-4-15
DRAM CommandRate: Auto(Not sure which one to pick)

and volting like this
Vcore: 1.225V - although CPU-Z shows 1.200V
DramV: Auto

any comments on this to reach the 3.6Ghz mark ?
Edited by Malici0us - 7/7/08 at 12:40pm
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post #9 of 28
Those idle temps, aren't that bad. It honestly doesn't matter. Just go for your OC, if you see temps you don't like go back down.
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post #10 of 28
its no big deal my temps have gone as high as 65c and before that i was apparently getting over 90C using coretemp.. so i resat the HSF applied some duratech silver based TIM (cheap stuff) and it seems much better but yes still hot. probably a problem with the sensors though so im not gona worry about it.

thinking of overclocking to 3.6ghz and sticking with stock HSF hope it will be ok!
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