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[Fud] Dual-Core 65nm Phenom Cancelled

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45nm is the way to go

As 65nm Phenom mask would be bigger than the one that AMD has with K8 at 65nm some important people have decided to canceled the dual core Phenom until 45nm arrives.


The decision was business and strategically as AMD likes the way that dual core Athlon performs and these dual core 3.2GHz CPUs are selling for under €100 as we speak.

It would be very tough to position dual core Phenom and AMD probably has the same clocking problem with these dual cores.

Dual core Phenom in 45nm should be scheduled for Q2 2009 and from this time point, this looks awful far away.
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I think this was pretty much a given. K10 just isn't clocking high enough on a 65nm process to really warrant replacing the K8-based chips (which are cheaper to make, probably a big factor in this decision). Ideally, this means that more time and resources are being put in to the 45nm K10.5 chips.

The other factor here is that I think ultimately AMD wants to push tri-cores into dual-core pricing territory. This would allow them to compete in the higher end market (with 4+ cores) and the mid-range market (3 cores) with the same die, which would lower manufacturing costs quite a bit. In addition, doing this would essentially push dual cores back into the super-low budget category at which point it matters little whether or not it's a K8 or K10 core behind it.
post #2 of 21
Good points, current K8 doesn't need replacing and it just isn't worth the hassle to push a new dual-core chip out into the market when they can just push that money into R&D/Production of 45nm Phenom.
    
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i've heard it both ways. someone like FUD says they arn't going to do it, then someone else does the complete opposite and says they are going to do it. god, i hate the media.... :swearing:
post #4 of 21
About time. I knew this was going to happen the first time they said they were still going to release it. I'd maybe only release the 2 top of the line X2 Phenoms but that's about it because everyone is pretty much wanting to go quads right now anyway. Personally, I just want to get their top of the line 45nm X2 and 45nm X4 and I'll be a happy man
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i want a 45nm Phenom x4
    
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Glad they didn't, I bought my 6400+ couple of weeks ago ^^,
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Cant wait for Amd to come back around so I can built my amd/ati system =P
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If they keep making new quad designs and less dual designs maybe the quads will eventually totally encompass their product lineup. If only the dies weren't bigger.
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For socket AM3? I'd imagine
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post #10 of 21
Since K10 isn't really scaling with higher clocks, I wonder how much more we can get with 45nm. They have said that they're not going high-K for now so I don't see huge clockspeed jumps. Sure the dies will be cheaper to make and we'll probably see a couple more speed bins but I hope that they have some kind of hidden ace up their sleeve...

Since the K8 X2s are doing so well for the dual-core market, I wonder if there are any plans to migrate them down to 45nm.......
    
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