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The root of the problem is, so far, HP notebooks, but likely others. You can see the HP page here, and at least one lawsuit about the same thing here. No mention of this in the Nvidia statement though. Why would they? If you look at what Nvidia says, it isn't their fault, it is those damn suppliers.

The official line is: "While we have not been able to determine a root cause for these failures, testing suggests a weak material set of die/package combination, system thermal management designs, and customer use patterns are contributing factors". Parsing that, you see that they are blaming fabs and packaging suppliers first, OEMs second, and those damn users third, but they have no fault here, NV can do no wrong.

This is really dangerous for three reasons: they are annoying suppliers, annoying OEMs and annoying users. Last we checked, they need all three to remain in business.

The weak die/packaging excuse doesn't wash at all. Nvidia is blaming TSMC behind the scenes, trashing them pretty hard through 'unofficial' channels to deflect blame. They are likely to be doing the same to packaging suppliers as well, and others. The reason this doesn't wash is that there are only a handful of suppliers in each of these fields.

If they had a problem with Nvidia, there would be problems with other companies. ATI, Altera and dozens of others, would have chips crapping out left and right, especially designs where they are meant to run 24/7 like embedded parts. You would see an industry rife with failures and warning like the bad caps problem of a few years ago.

You simply aren't seeing that. Period. No warning from others, no recalls, no TSMC warnings, no nothing. This is a sham to deflect blame from Nvidia, they don't want to dent their shiny image, much less slow down the 'can of whoop-ass' opening. I am calling bull**** on the supplier-blaming problem.

Rest here

I know it's Charlie (AKA Nvidia hater) but it is still a good read if you can ignore his dislike for Nvidia
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I'd love to know the root cause for his intense hatred of Nvidia. I'm sure they did something to aggravate the guy.

Though I must say that as mostly Nvidia user over the years, I've always liked their cards, but their business practices over the last year are highly questionable.
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Must have woke up on the wrong side of bed.
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Wow........what a load of BS. I can't believe they're even blaming TSMC......or the customers. I would expect them to blame partners though.....
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Originally Posted by Psyborg View Post
I'd love to know the root cause for his intense hatred of Nvidia. I'm sure they did something to aggravate the guy.

Though I must say that as mostly Nvidia user over the years, I've always liked their cards, but their business practices over the last year are highly questionable.
He may ahve a deep hate for them. But if this is the case then I wouldn't really call this a biased story.

The funny thing is, Nvidia can blame others all they want. However the bottom line is this is their product with their name on it. If something goes wrong then they are the ones who take the fall, it is common sense. Not only that, but if Nvidia were not happy with these cheap materials they should have demanded a better quality material.

Either Nvidia take the blame for this mess or they will get blamed for having poor quality control and not checking their own products prior to release. If I was outsourcing and getting others to build my products, I would sure as hell go over them with a fine tooth comb and see if they could survive a nuclear winter before putting them on the market.
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I have a feeling Nvidia might be hanging out with matrox in a few years
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So does this effect all Nvidia mobile chips across all OEMs?
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I have a feeling Nvidia might be hanging out with matrox in a few years
No monopoly plz

But then again...there's always S3 (ROFL)

Nvidia's nowhere near "dead"
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No monopoly plz

But then again...there's always S3 (ROFL)

Nvidia's nowhere near "dead"
I never said Nvidia is near death... but Matrox isn't dead either? are they? they are just fairly small compared to how massive they used to be.

and even if Nvidia dropped out of the high end, I don't think there will be a monopoly, I have a feeling Intel will pick up their slack.
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I'd love to know the root cause for his intense hatred of Nvidia. I'm sure they did something to aggravate the guy.

Though I must say that as mostly Nvidia user over the years, I've always liked their cards, but their business practices over the last year are highly questionable.
I forget if it was their CEO or VP but there were quite a few very arrogant, very unprofessional inteviews that mostly talked bad about their competitors that seemed to brush even a few Nvidia owners the wrong way.

I think the negativity from that is what's fueling the s#!t talking now.
    
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