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Originally Posted by HugeDink View Post
That's not complaining.

Thats blaming other people.

Not even somewhat similar.
Not even somewhat similar?

Complain:

Quote:
To express feelings of pain, dissatisfaction, or resentment.
They aren't expressing feelings of dissatisfaction here, not even a little?:

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The official line is: "While we have not been able to determine a root cause for these failures, testing suggests a weak material set of die/package combination, system thermal management designs, and customer use patterns are contributing factors". Parsing that, you see that they are blaming fabs and packaging suppliers first, OEMs second, and those damn users third, but they have no fault here, NV can do no wrong.

Edited by Choggs396 - 7/7/08 at 2:53pm
    
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Choggs, HugeDink: Peace out. Kiss and make up. Seriously guys, you both look rediculous.
    
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Choggs, HugeDink: Peace out. Kiss and make up. Seriously guys, you both look rediculous.
I love you Choggs.

Seriously though, they aren't complaining, if they were complaining they would be like "what the hell guys, why cant we find out what the problem with the core is? this is so dumb."

Marry me.
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Seriously though, they aren't complaining, if they were complaining they would be like "what the hell guys, why cant we find out what the problem with the core is? this is so dumb."
Swearing and making childish remarks aren't requirements for complaining. I already provided you with the definition.

You don't even have to read between the lines here to realize that's what they're doing, at least to some extent.
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I'd love to know the root cause for his intense hatred of Nvidia. I'm sure they did something to aggravate the guy.
He probably bought a GeForce FX 5800 Ultra.
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Swearing and making childish remarks aren't requirements for complaining. I already provided you with the definition.

You don't even have to read between the lines here to realize that's what they're doing, at least to some extent.
Sorry, I just don't feel like "We believe the problem arises from the Thermal Engineering" Sounds like complaining...

But its alright, you have your opinion, I have mine. Truce?
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Sorry, I just don't feel like "We believe the problem arises from the Thermal Engineering" Sounds like complaining...

But its alright, you have your opinion, I have mine. Truce?
With this comment right here:

Quote:
"While we have not been able to determine a root cause for these failures, testing suggests a weak material set of die/package combination, system thermal management designs, and customer use patterns are contributing factors"
NVidia is expressing at least a little dissatisfaction with the said "causes" here, aren't they?

I'm sorry if your personal definition of "complaining" is different then the one I provided, or if you don't "feel" like it's complaining, but your argument isn't going to have much weight if it's basically dependent on that.
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I would generally ignore what this guy has to say. It could all be true, but I won't take it from him.
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With this comment right here:



NVidia is expressing at least a little dissatisfaction with the said "causes" here, aren't they?

I'm sorry if your personal definition of "complaining" is different then the one I provided, or if you don't "feel" like it's complaining, but your argument isn't going to have much weight if it's basically dependent on that.
jeeze man, I said truce.

And no, its not complaining, not even at all. they are simply stating facts. there are no emotions expressed in the statement, its just them saying why they think what happened, happened.
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jeeze man, I said truce.

And no, its not complaining, not even at all. they are simply stating facts. there are no emotions expressed in the statement, its just them saying why they think what happened, happened.
You can't say "truce" then make another retort.

And there is no requirement for them to be expressing certain emotions in the definition of "complain", other than to show they are dissatisfied with something. And they clearly are.
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