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Originally Posted by Shin2k35 View Post
Wrong. Buy the best you can afford.
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Originally Posted by RPIJG View Post
Wrong answer. AF kills the 3870, not AA. It was also pretty common knowledge that with the exclusion of the 2900 and 3800 series cards, ATI has been AA's Daddy.

Who's the fanboy?
Actually AA does kill the 38xx series performance. Look at the charts.

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Without AA enabled we are starting to see the telltale effects of processor limitation since all of the scores are pretty much the same. Unfortunately, once AA is enabled in this game the performance of the HD3870 suffers quite a bit with as much as a 20% difference between it and the competitor from Nvidia.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...preview-5.html
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Originally Posted by Shin2k35 View Post
Wrong. Buy the best you can afford.
Lets say there are two video cards I could buy with my $500. One costs $300 and will get me 43 FPS on Game XYZ. The other costs $500 and will get me 46 FPS at the same settings. Go ahead and spend the extra $200 which will get you an increase of next to nothing.
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post #144 of 216
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Originally Posted by onelivestarfish View Post
this is hilarious.

You guys are a riot.

Who cares. Do you own AMD or NVIDIA stock? Are you an employee of either company? Are you the CEO of either company?

If you answered NO to all 3 of these questions, then stop acting like a teenager.

Buy the card that best suits you, whether that may be the ATI offering or the NVIDIA offering.

What ATI did was create competition. That is good.

Anyone remember the 8800 Ultra? Talk about getting bent over a barrel. The consumer suffered because there was nothing out there close its performance that was produced by ATI.

Unfortunately this thread has gotten far off topic and has become an e-peen waving contest.
I'm seriosuly considering buying some nvidia stock while it's cheap =D
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Lets say there are two video cards I could buy with my $500. One costs $300 and will get me 43 FPS on Game XYZ. The other costs $500 and will get me 46 FPS at the same settings. Go ahead and spend the extra $200 which will get you an increase of next to nothing.
Except that you're wrong and your analogy is totally off. the HD4870 has a good run in some games and DX10.1 (plus the 24X custom AA) are much better on the HD4870. Most benchmarks show the 280GTX marginally beating the 4870, and sometimes even losing out to it, when AA is enabled.

Anyway, my point is simply that if I had $500 to blow on a graphics card, I wouldn't stand there like an idiot going "hmm, but this one is cheaper and only performs a little worse" I'd just buy the best I can afford, and if I can afford thebest, why on earth would I go lower? Just because a ****load of AMD fanboys are screaming blue hell about the lower card? No thanks. Best I can afford.

For the record, right now the best I could afford would be the HD4870 and if I was looking to buy right now that's what I'd get. But I'm also expecting to come into some money in a few months time. Enough money to buy Tri SLI 280GTX's and a 26" 1080p monitor. I would not think twice about buying such a set-up, either.
    
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LOL, I guess BSODs present a challenge to you, eh?
The thing is I've been lucky not to get those Nvidia BSODs
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Originally Posted by Ecchi-BANZAII!!! View Post
The thing is I've been lucky not to get those Nvidia BSODs
I had a few. ATI fanboys seem to forget that not everything works as it should all the time.

A BIOS update fixed my problems. Which was actually eVGA's problem anyway.
    
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I'm seriosuly considering buying some nvidia stock while it's cheap =D


I might hold out a while longer. Intel isnt playing nice with their new chips. I would wait until the end of the quarter and see.
   
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i hope ati keeps doing well and makes their cards better every series, and not slack off after this win with the battle of the cards....
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Next is R800 with 2000SP.
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Originally Posted by Shin2k35 View Post
I'm seriosuly considering buying some nvidia stock while it's cheap =D

Except that you're wrong and your analogy is totally off. the HD4870 has a good run in some games and DX10.1 (plus the 24X custom AA) are much better on the HD4870. Most benchmarks show the 280GTX marginally beating the 4870, and sometimes even losing out to it, when AA is enabled.

Anyway, my point is simply that if I had $500 to blow on a graphics card, I wouldn't stand there like an idiot going "hmm, but this one is cheaper and only performs a little worse" I'd just buy the best I can afford, and if I can afford thebest, why on earth would I go lower? Just because a ****load of AMD fanboys are screaming blue hell about the lower card? No thanks. Best I can afford.

For the record, right now the best I could afford would be the HD4870 and if I was looking to buy right now that's what I'd get. But I'm also expecting to come into some money in a few months time. Enough money to buy Tri SLI 280GTX's and a 26" 1080p monitor. I would not think twice about buying such a set-up, either.
When you have 550 hypothetical dollars. You buy two 4850s and a P45.

As of right now, aside from people who have an SLI board and 600 hypothetical dollars (who should get 2 GTX260s) There is absolutely no reason to buy an Nvidia card.

(unless you have less than 200 hypothetical dollars, but in that case, I would suggest saving more money, because there really isn't anything worthwhile below that point.... the 8800GT is starting to show its age.)
Edited by HugeDink - 7/8/08 at 3:19pm
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