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In that case, Nvidia haven't released their next gen cards yet.

The HD4870 takes crossfire to match the 280GTX. That's two cards run together to match the power of one card. I don't understand how ATI have won anything important.

Albeit, the HD4870 is a bloody great card and two of them are cheaper than the GTX, but the GTX is still the winner of performance. That's my point and it's pretty a hard fact.

I have mild OCD when it comes to brands but when I come to buying my next graphics card, unless the GTX is within my price range I'll gladly get two HD4870's.
With the heat and power consumption of the GTX 280? HA!
    
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Make no real point but act as though you have, ha!

Pick nits at an outstanding card. Boo hoo it costs too much, boo hoo i think it runs hot. boo hoo it uses more wattage.

It's the better card. End of debate. You can't argue with facts.
    
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Make no real point but act as though you have, ha!

Pick nits at an outstanding card. Boo hoo it costs too much, boo hoo i think it runs hot. boo hoo it uses more wattage.

It's the better card. End of debate. You can't argue with facts.
If it was priced reasonably, it would be an "outstanding" card. You apparently didn't understand what I wrote. A GTX 280 would be terrible. It would produce far too much heat and power consumption would be through the roof.
    
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Make no real point but act as though you have, ha!

Pick nits at an outstanding card. Boo hoo it costs too much, boo hoo i think it runs hot. boo hoo it uses more wattage.

It's the better card. End of debate. You can't argue with facts.
its better by a slim margin only. and at more than twice the cost. those are the facts that most people take notice of.

and besides, once the 4870X2 comes out, Nvidia is left to reassess their methods.

the GTX280 is a great card, but the 4870 is outstanding, especially given its price/performance.
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Make no real point but act as though you have, ha!

Pick nits at an outstanding card. Boo hoo it costs too much, boo hoo i think it runs hot. boo hoo it uses more wattage.

It's the better card. End of debate. You can't argue with facts.
Well you can argue with what you just said.

The better card can mean a lot of things, most expensive, better craftsmanship, faster speeds, but it can also mean less $ per core Mhz, for an overall slower but much cheaper card.

to most, that's why the 4800 series is the better card and that is why it's dominating sales.
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Make no real point but act as though you have, ha!

Pick nits at an outstanding card. Boo hoo it costs too much, boo hoo i think it runs hot. boo hoo it uses more wattage.

It's the better card. End of debate. You can't argue with facts.
Actually, the HD4870x2 is one card with two GPU's, so it counts as one card, so ATI has the fastest card, with two GPU's, and nVidia has the fastest GPU, that's the truth.
    
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Actually, the HD4870x2 is one card with two GPU's, so it counts as one card, so ATI has the fastest card, with two GPU's, and nVidia has the fastest GPU, that's the truth.
hehe yeah but not *yet*.

otherwise i would have just said that

but yeah, exactly. ATI has fastest card, NVidia has fastest chip.
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hehe yeah but not *yet*.

otherwise i would have just said that

but yeah, exactly. ATI has fastest card, NVidia has fastest chip.
Now if they were to only get married none of this would be a problem.
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The better card can mean a lot of things, most expensive, better craftsmanship, faster speeds, but it can also mean less $ per core Mhz, for an overall slower but much cheaper card.
Better craftsmanship, faster speeds....mm hmm

But how does being more expensive make a card better?
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The better card is the one that performs the best. Not the one that performs the best, for the right price. That's the better value card.
    
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