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Keosheyan says, "We chose Havok for a couple of reasons. One, we feel Havok's technology is superior. Two, they have demonstrated that they'll be very open and collaborative with us, working together with us to provide great solutions. It really is a case of a company acting very indepently from their parent company.
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Though he admits and agrees that they haven't called up Nvidia on the phone to talk about supporting PhysX and CUDA, he says there are lots of opportunities for the companies to interact in this industry and Nvidia hasn't exactly been very welcoming.
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To sum up, Keosheyan assures us that he's very much aware that the GP-GPU market is moving fast, and he thinks that's great. AMD/ATI is moving fast, too. He knows that gamers want GPU physics and GP-GPU apps, but "we're devoted to doing it the right way, not just the fast way."

So it sounds like support for CUDA or PhysX on ATI graphics cards just isn't going to happen unless Nvidia picks up the phone first and offers an olive branch, or there is an overwhelming demand from ATI's customers.
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Any thoughts I find this very interesting and I for one think that they should work together so that game designers know what they are working with.
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I wish they would just support CUDA (assuming nVidia would let them.) If they did i would have already been busy coding up GP-GPU utilizing applications. Always wanted to work on a GPU utilizing video converter.... maybe that is just a dream though.
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While we thank ATi for forcing Nvidia to drop prices, let us thank them for potentially slowing down the PC gaming industry. :swearing:
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While we thank ATi for forcing Nvidia to drop prices, let us thank them for potentially slowing down the PC gaming industry. :swearing:
Havok is, has been, and will most likely stay what companies have used for a long time now. and Havok based GPU acceleration isn't too far off.

If anything, Its nvidia slowing down the PC gaming industry by throwing another random useless physics API out into the mix that confuses the Devs, and forces them to choose.
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The only PhysX game I own is GRAW2 and it was one of the first.
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I wish they would just support CUDA (assuming nVidia would let them.) If they did i would have already been busy coding up GP-GPU utilizing applications. Always wanted to work on a GPU utilizing video converter.... maybe that is just a dream though.
I was hoping the same.

Liscense out CUDA for a price, and make it the one and only standard in GP-GPU computing.
    
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I agree that ATI should take it though they say there to full of pride to call up Nvidia and ask if they can...
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Havok is already in a lot of games, and a lot of Valve games. I would rather see Havok gain GPU acceleration than the almost non-existent Physx. On the CUDA front, I'm hoping that AMD will end up throwing its support behind OpenCL and see the proprietary, nvidia specific CUDA die a quiet death
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Havok is not all that great Playing oblivion it does some crazy crap sometimes like my sword I drop goes flying across the map...

PhysX Look like a better Physics program IMO
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I was hoping the same.

Liscense out CUDA for a price, and make it the one and only standard in GP-GPU computing.
If that happened i would be ready to jump the boat and say nVidia is right about the future is computing. (Intel being wrong by saying the GPU would be outdated by CPU so powerful there was only need for 1 processor in a machine.)
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