Originally Posted by pauldovi
And you predict it will be faster than Core 3 Quad (clock for clock or absolutely), use less power, and be priced competitively?
I don't think that they've released enough information to say for certain, but worst case scenario it should be as competitive as Phenom is now. There are a number of factors that are going to come into play with the new Phenoms:
*Is the L3 cache faster?
*How much will the additional cache help? (it should pay off in the encoding numbers where C2Q has a slight edge on the Phenom)
*Will SOI+Ultra-Low-K work out?
*Will DDR2 vs DDR3 be significant?
*What core tweaks have they done?
AMD is still being pretty quiet about Shanghai, even though they do have working silicon. Mostly what K10.5 has is potential. This potential was there for K10 too, but the 6 months they lost cleaning up the TLB situation really held it back. I think that if they would have avoided that, the Phenom today would be a little more competitive against C2Q.
The other interesting thing to look out for is when AMD adopts HK/MG technology into their 45nm process, code name "Hydra" (sort of K10.6, it's a minor architecture revision as well, test production begins Q1 2009). At this point they will have DSL SOI, Ultra-Low K interconnects, Hi-K oxides, and metal gates all in one process.Edited by darkcloud89 - 7/7/08 at 9:56pm