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Who cares if it uses less power? The total system power consumption is still the same since AMD chipsets use less power
I was refering to total system power, which the Q6600 uses a lot less of.

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I was comparing retail boxes. Regardless, you're wrong, Q6600 overclocks better, but at stock, the Phenom is on par, or ahead of the Q6600 in certain tasks. It may consume a little more power, but TDP is not true power draw. Overclocking is really where the Intel has the advantage.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/phenom9850_032708031830/16755.png


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Not sure where you are getting your info from....

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3272&p=1
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Last time I checked the Q6600 is cheaper (at the same performance), faster (at the same price), and used less power than Phenoms (and the same speed and at the same price)....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...nd&Order=PRICE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...nd&Order=PRICE

DDR3 will make a big difference. Wether it has to do with actual performance, who knows. But I do know this. When Intel goes DDR3 only, DDR3 will become cheap and widely available and DDR2 will start to dimish and become more expensive.
Someone forgot how long it actually took for DDR2 to become cheap(affordable? =P ) compared to DDR
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Not sure where you are getting your info from....

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3272&p=1
Not anandtech, I've gotten most of it from user reviews/comparisons on xtremesystems.
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I'm noticing something here. Pauldovi, the benchmarks that you just posted seem to be from Anandtech's initial review of the B3 stepping Phenom. Recently, they did another review of the new low-power Phenoms and included the results for the other B3 steppings. The only significant difference I notice from the testing setups is that the newer review uses Vista SP1 while the older one uses vanilla Vista. (I'm only showing the graphs where the results are different). I'm not sure what exactly in SP1 causes this difference, but it's there nonetheless.

Vanilla Vista results are on the left, SP1 results on the right:
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No change there, but on the 64-bit Cinebench 10 test from TechReport:


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This is another situation where there's no change, but techreport's 64-bit test is completely different:


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And for the folding folks...


The gaming tests weren't the same between the two Anandtech reviews, but TechReport has some Vista x64 results:




I don't really care too much for the way that they test CPUs in gaming (ie low resolution scenarios that aren't prevalent in real-world), but I did find some rather interesting results when it comes to real world gaming here.

The bottom line here is that with Vista SP1, especially x64, the 9850 is faster at stock than the Q6600 at certain tasks.
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The bottom line here is that with Vista SP1, especially x64, the 9850 is faster at stock than the Q6600 at certain tasks.
Thanks for the detailed response to his post, also, thanks for that blog, I'm glad someone is putting all the info together so nicely.
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