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http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu-sc...e-processors/4
phenoms do well in games too(leaving out crysis) and 9850 matches Q6600 performance in many games at stock,so for users who don't overclock its a fine choice if the price is acceptable.
    
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post #52 of 100
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Originally Posted by bdattilo View Post
If you did heavy work with software that was multi-threaded and was mostly FPU calculations, you would be better off with a Phenom.
Which is irrelevant because all that matters is the 3Dmark score! C'mon, you should know that by now!
    
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"Find me a better 3 or 4 core AMD Processor than the Phenom and I will gladly buy it"
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dark side of humanity? I bought a 9500 Phenom cuz greed( got it for 75).
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When the motherboard for my Q6600 unexpectedly died I was faced with the decision to replace it, or just get rid of the chip. I already had a Phenom 9500/780G HTPC, so I decided to ditch the G0 and keep the AMD platform as my sole PC. I put the 3870 that was paired up with the Intel chip into the Phenom rig and I do not notice the difference. If you think you do you're likely imagining it, or paying way too much attention.

I initially got the Phenom purely for use in the HTPC role because it was cheap, but now I realize that it's plenty powerful enough to fill any role including being my primary gaming rig.
    
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i'd buy one.
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Originally Posted by wolf_08 View Post
As you can be a champ if you break a Overclock and break a record on a AMD Phenom.

Intel is too easy to OC needs to be more harder to make it more worth while.
I know Intel is easier to OC, but this guy says it's too easy, and wishes it was harder. Since when is this a bad thing? (What I was wanting, was for him to tell me he was kidding about wanting it to be harder "to be more worth while").

I would have thought about buying a Phenom if they were out at the time of my build, but since they weren't, and everyone was saying that the Q6600 was the bomb for the money, I went with the sure bet. Call me a follower or whatever you want, but MY money doesn't grow on a tree in the backyard. Supporting your company of choice is fine, if you have the cash to do so.
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I didn't say ****ers in a bad way. I just meant it as a general term meaning "lots of people"
George Carlin used that expression too, and he was a great man.

And I know they are all great products, I never said they weren't.
The Q6600 is an amazing processor for the price right now. But as for me, I'd rather get 3 less FPS in games than someone with an Intel processor, just so that I can say I've got a Phenom.

It's different, it makes you less ordinary, and I think its cool, its just the way I am.

Edit: Besides, In real, truly Multi-threaded applications (like supreme commander) which is where the market is headed... the Phenoms are actually better than the C2Qs.

As you can see here, a Phenom clocked at 2.60ghz beats a QX6700 Clocked at 2.66:
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardwar...261_3737046__9
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Originally Posted by Why Mac?
'so i can say i have the black macbook that gets me laid and be kewl'
hmm...i am seeing some similarities here


For the record there is no reason to buy a Phenom over a C2Q...at any level...except 'so i can say i have a phenom' or 'so i know i have the spider platform' or 'so i'm not like the sick ****s who only care about performance' or 'support AMD its the green, whiny liberal thing to do!!!!!!!!!!!one1!!!'

i'm not an intel fanboy...
AMD X2 is a good value, and if there was software level optimization for tri-core it *could* have a use.
C2D is also a good value but its usually pricer than AMD X2 which is why I chose a dual core AMD.
C2Q > Phenom...except the integrated memory controller which is all but 3 words in terms of performance increase (theoretically it has the potential to do better in multithreaded apps but in reality which afaik matters to the non-fanboy it doesn't really increase performance that much.)
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Originally Posted by Aeloi View Post
To support AMD I would think.
This is a reason, might not be good, but it's a reason.

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Originally Posted by Torched-Geek View Post
This isn't an attempt to start a flame war for the record, but i'd like to know what compels Phenom users to buy a Phenom in the first place, especially for a build from scratch. Genuine reasons please.

I'd consider myself an AMD fan boy, or at least I would have done when I built my current three year old system, but I don't see what the advantage of building a Phenom system could be. In the UK, the Q6600 is cheaper than the cheapest four core Phenom, so price doesn't seem to the reason, at least of the CPU itself? Overclocking, I've seen all evidence pointing to the Intels being faster etc. so why?

Reasons from current/past Phenom users only please.
The reasons exist and they can be more or less relevant for your case, here are mine.
First, because I like the underdog, I liked AMD in the beginnings of the 64bit era (A64), I hated AMD in the pre-C2D days, and now I like the company once more for fighting to survive, like buying ATI with the risk of bankruptcy because they didn't have a chipset, graphics technology larabee-like or any other way to develop them in time. You need guts to do this, I like this.
Another reason is that I have never ever been disappointed in an AMD build. My company uses Dell I have been disappointed over and over again with Intel builds; I still work on a dinosaur 8CPU (4cpus+4hts) netburst workstation. The company is tied to dell, dell is tied to intel (and don't say it's not so without proofs) so I am tied to dell-intel workstations.
I don't like the way Intel does business although the engineering teams are probably better than AMD's, especially the one in Israel that designed Pentium1, Pentium PRO, Dothan, Core Duo/C2D (almost everything they did in the last 20 years)
All my builds are made with a price/$ consideration, that's why I would never have bought an X2 when they appeared, nor a quad now (AMD or Intel) for being useless and overpriced. If I were to throw money away on a quad, I would at least buy the cheapest to see if there's anything useful I could do with it except burning my electricity money. In Europe the Phenom is much cheaper than a C2Q. I don't care about their performance in 3DMark because I don't play 3DMark, so in my book they are equal performance-wise before testing. I would get a Phenom to play around with a quad.

Last but not least each AMD system is snappier than a comparatively priced Intel. An AMD rig ALWAYS has cheaper moterboards for the same quality. How the heck can you put a 70$ tag on that garbage of G35 and get for the same money a 780G packed with features? The 20$ saved on the mobo allows for a better CPU, thus the snappiness I was talking about.

This is from a guy that had 6 AMD rigs since the Duron 750MHz days, but know what a GTLVREF is. Between two useless things (for me) I would get the cheaper.
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well what i think is buy a 5000X2 black edition + a AM2+ MB + 4850, then upgrade to Phenom 45nm (K10.5), then K11 cause AM2+ will support amd's AM3 CPU's + a R800 for a nice fast system with minimal costs
    
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