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Originally Posted by RonindeBeatrice View Post
When the motherboard for my Q6600 unexpectedly died I was faced with the decision to replace it, or just get rid of the chip. I already had a Phenom 9500/780G HTPC, so I decided to ditch the G0 and keep the AMD platform as my sole PC. I put the 3870 that was paired up with the Intel chip into the Phenom rig and I do not notice the difference. If you think you do you're likely imagining it, or paying way too much attention.

I initially got the Phenom purely for use in the HTPC role because it was cheap, but now I realize that it's plenty powerful enough to fill any role including being my primary gaming rig.
Try to download stuff+scan for virus+folding+surf the web and play games(2 monitors for me) and you can notice a difference I got both AMD and Intel and the Intel cpu is much faster.
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Well, according to a review of the 9950X4, @ 3.0Ghz, it performs very close to the Q6600 @ the same speed.

AMD just seem to be slightly behind, they more than likely have something up their sleeve that will kill the Core architecture
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First of all, if you're running a socket AM2+ mobo to begin with, then there's NO point in rebuilding your whole rig just for a Q6600. Just buy a Phenom -- at least the 9850 or 9950, of course.
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but the Intel chipset is much better than the AMD's, if you do ghost installation for XP and Vista, the transfer rate is much higher than Intel chipset. My vista installation is also much faster with Intel mobo, but I like the 780's low power consumption and decent onboard video.
Edited by MaddenModer - 7/8/08 at 12:22pm
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phenoms r MUCH cheaper down here than intel quads

9850 for $500 BDS =250 US
q6600 for $700 BDS = 350 US

mind u these are the lowest prices i cud find down here

so IF i was contemplating a new build and dint want to deal with waiting times, shipping and duties, etc. i'd buy the phenom
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I can tell you why it loads faster, its because you are using a Raptor in it.

And if you can't tell the difference in gaming between those two video cards then you must be running at 640x480 or something.



@Torched-geek: The only real advantage is the integrated memory controller. It helps with a few things, but its effect on overall performance is absolutely negligible.

Please....the WD 640 AAKS in the Intel rig blow the freakin Raptor out of the water on every test...

the 74gig raptor pull only 71MB/s av. speeds while the 640 pulls a constant 95MB/s thats enough right there to put the Intel rig in the lead...the 9600gt pull double the score of the 7600gt in 3Dmark06...also the Raptor is pulling 8ms seek times while the 640 is pulling 5ms...not much of a difference there so it ain the seek times...

but, both rigs game in 1024x768 res....the 9600gt will run the full1900x1200 but I dont use it and I like the faster frame rates of the lower resolution....

and for the record the main game I play is Rainbow 6 Vegas2 and I constanly pull 100fps on the 9600gt and about 60fps on the AMD/7600gt rig...still go figure
Edited by dr_bowtie - 7/8/08 at 2:56pm
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You can't compare different rigs with entirely different components and come to the conclusion that the one that loads a game faster does so because of the CPU. There are so many other factors to consider--in addition to disk speeds. RAM bandwidth, disk controller bandwidths, FSB speeds, memory controller, etc.

Re: OP--why not? If I had an AM2/AM2+ X2 rig, and I wanted to go quad-core, I wouldn't buy a completely new motherboard, CPU (and possibly RAM, though not necessarily) to do so--that would be a waste when one can spend a couple hundred bucks (give or take) and have a new quad core--as opposed to spending a couple hundred bucks for a C2Q, a hundred bucks for a new mobo that's capable of OC'ing it, (and possibly RAM, though not necessarily). Unless someone wanted to experience a C2Q system--which is fine--there's no point. The performance, while intel is faster now, is not HUGE--it's not like going from a single-core pentiumD to a C2D or C2Q. So it's not black and white, but rather varying shades of gray right now.
I can and I did....

it really doesnt matter what internals are what when a lesser rig loads faster into some games....It's just funny to me as all...sure make the wife feel cool when she's in the game before me....

and for those of you who say the Raptor is at fault....nope

I loaded the raptor up on the Intel rig...same thing


I can add the reason most people buy AMD or even a Phenom is that they try to stay platform loyal like alot of people do Intel....

I was always a rule Intel chips with Intel chipsets for the most stable platform...alot of people that want to use Crossfire use AMD all the way...as been stated...crossfire works better on AMD than on Intel....but arent you glad you have the option?
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What would cause me to buy a Phenom? The cost to upgrade my current system to a Phenom is just the price of a new CPU. My mainboard is AM2+ compatible, so it's just a 200 dollar upgrade for a quad core CPU. If I wanted to get a quad core Intel CPU it would require a new MB and CPU, not to mention the time it takes to uninstall the old hardware and reinstall the new (time is money!)

Other reasons would be, to support AMD. AMD has been viewed as the underdog time and time again, yet they give Intel a run for their money. The competition is great for the CPU market.

I personally have owned more Intel products than AMD, but have always been happy with my AMD purchases, despite skepticism. The thing that generally drives me to pick one way or another is almost always the performance:dollar ratio. I don't need the best of the best to be happy.
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phenoms r MUCH cheaper down here than intel quads

9850 for $500 BDS =250 US
q6600 for $700 BDS = 350 US

mind u these are the lowest prices i cud find down here

so IF i was contemplating a new build and dint want to deal with waiting times, shipping and duties, etc. i'd buy the phenom
really here in America or newegg i should say

Q6000 is $209
9850 is $204
    
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The only reason to get a phenom would be the AMD chipset for quad fire or because you're not overclocking (then why are you here I must ask?) because Intel CPUs are king right now.
I have a Phenom system and my reason for building it was simple: Brand-loyalty.

I do not overclock, but I am a member here because:-

1) It is the best site to give and receive tech-advice.
2) It is an amazing resource for all things PC.
3) It is almost like a tech-news-portal... thanks to members (newshounds, lol) like Linskingdom and others.
4) It is, for the most part, an incredibly friendly, informative and helpful community; Sure, we have our minor disagreements and flame-wars but they're mostly "good clean fun" and end-up with all parties nipping out for a "virtual beer" lol.

Just my thoughts.
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