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There is a very, very good reason to buy a Phenom instead of a C2Q: you're already got an AM2 motherboard that supports Phenom (a prime example is my sig rig's M2N-SLI Deluxe), you want a decent upgrade, but you don't want to spend $100+ on a new 775 motherboard. I think this makes perfect sense.

There's another, perhaps less pure reason. Back in the first few months of Core 2 Duo, people bought them. They bought lots of them. What many people forget is that the price/performance ratio between C2D and Athlon X2 was decidedly in favor of AMD up into the $200 price range, which back then I guess was something like e6300 vs X2 4600+. If you remember the THG charts correctly, the X2 3800+ through 4800+ (in that order, really) absolutely dominated the tops spots in price/performance for months. While the ~$200 or below CPU price range may simply not be powerful enough for a bunch of you OCN users, it is a very real and very large demographic in the PC-building world.

Of course, then people started overclocking their Core 2 processors.
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Originally Posted by dr_bowtie View Post
Please....the WD 640 AAKS in the Intel rig blow the freakin Raptor out of the water on every test...

the 74gig raptor pull only 71MB/s av. speeds while the 640 pulls a constant 95MB/s thats enough right there to put the Intel rig in the lead...the 9600gt pull double the score of the 7600gt in 3Dmark06...also the Raptor is pulling 8ms seek times while the 640 is pulling 5ms...not much of a difference there so it ain the seek times...

but, both rigs game in 1024x768 res....the 9600gt will run the full1900x1200 but I dont use it and I like the faster frame rates of the lower resolution....

and for the record the main game I play is Rainbow 6 Vegas2 and I constanly pull 100fps on the 9600gt and about 60fps on the AMD/7600gt rig...still go figure
There are many programs that will still load faster on raptors because of the pattern they read data in. And not much of a difference between 8ms and 5ms seek times? What in the world are you smoking: Thats a 60% increase!


Also, how do you say in one post that:
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when gaming you cant tell a difference between the 2 rigs....
and then in the next you say:
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and for the record the main game I play is Rainbow 6 Vegas2 and I constanly pull 100fps on the 9600gt and about 60fps on the AMD/7600gt rig...still go figure
Its more than obvious that there is a difference between the two rigs - a BIG one.

Using your logic, there's also no difference between an E8400 and a 100MHz P1. After all, they both play Starcraft at 640x480 just fine.
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I would not buy the 65NM Phenoms but the 45NM look really good, if i had an AM2+ MB and a 5000X2 then i would get the Phenom
    
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Also, there IS one pretty good reason to get an AMD: cheap HTPCs.

If you get a motherboard with a 780G chipset, you get onboard HD capabilities, meaning you don't have to spend money on buying a separate video card for it.

Also, considering that the NB has a TDP of 20W and the Athlon X2 4450e has a RDP of 45W, thats a total of 65W of heat for the entire system, while a similar Intel based setup would give off between 150-200W (mainly because of the video card).
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Waiting to see what their going to do with the 45nm before i upgrade got the AM2+ mobo already (needed to switch from nvidia to ATI and thought id upgrade on the way) but im just not to impressed right now with what the Phenom can really do Aside from the X3's and hey if theres a challenge to overclocking them why are we complaining it is after all supposed to be a difficult process that has been made to easily recently
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Its more than obvious that there is a difference between the two rigs - a BIG one.
Not one you would see. Sure you can see the graph showing 60 FPS and 90 FPS. But you cannot see the difference on screen. So know for all practical puposes they are the same.
    
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AMD will eventually catch back up, this always happens one gets on top and then others wonder why people buy them.

Why did people buy Pentium D? The X2 was so much better yet it still sold...

I am just waiting for the 45nm refresh I have a 9500 Phenom sittin around and I will prob use that until the 45nm comes out.
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Loyalty is a good reason to buy a Phenom...

Loyalty is different to fanboyism...People loyal to a certain brand, know they're not buying the best, and don't think its the best, but they still do...

Loyalty is a good quality...
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Loyalty is a good reason to buy a Phenom...

Loyalty is different to fanboyism...People loyal to a certain brand, know they're not buying the best, and don't think its the best, but they still do...

Loyalty is a good quality...
xD

Loyalty is one thing I've got!

I mean guy if you're looking to upgrade from that single core athlon. You can even look at a 5000+BE if you overclock.. I mean even the 6000+ and the 6400+ are dropping insanely. I mean if you've got an am2 board to support it thats another reason to choose amd over intel. I sure get no problems with my X2
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