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Consumers have enjoyed record low memory prices for over nine months now in DDR2 memory. Over the past six months, even latest 4GB and 8GB kits have been finding new lows. We've seen a continued demand for DDR2, even with all of the DDR3 support that's been cropping up.

Many Nvidia nForce and all AMD processors are still limited to DDR2 and even the new Intel P45 chipset still supports it, so it doesn't look like it will be going away any time soon. In fact, the P45 chipset only supports 8GB of DDR3 memory, while DDR2 gets 16GB!

But with the increased availability and decreased price, enthusiasts are faced with a new question: is a 4GB kit or even an 8GB kit worth the cash splash over a basic 2GB? What scenarios warrant the extra memory?

With the help of memory giant Corsair (who kindly provided us with a few 2GB and 4GB PC2-6400 C5 DHX memory kits), we decided to take a range of typical, sometimes intensive real world scenarios to see what makes the difference, and where the common memory footprint now lies.

Despite the P45's ridiculous 16GB support, 4GB DDR2 DIMMs are still very, very expensive...so we've limited our scope to four sticks of 2GB (totaling 8GB) at most.


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When it comes to gaming though, there is a more straight-forward answer: having (at least) 4GB can really make the experience that much smoother and that much more involving in the latest games.

In multiple scenarios - task switching out of games, load times of save games, and even in-game itself - 4GB or more of memory makes the experience faster and smoother. We've got upcoming triple-A titles like FarCry 2, Stalker: Clear Sky or Crysis: Warhead, which will be at least no less intensive than what is currently available, so it's absolutely worth doubling up over 2GB if you're a keen member of the PC gaming master race. For a few less intensive titles like Call of Duty 4, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference between 2GB and 4GB of memory. Consider what you play before you dive into your next purchase.

If we were upgrading now, or in the future, 4GB seems like a logical choice unless you're on an incredibly tight budget. If you're a keen gamer then it's a must, just to cover all ground. We'd even try to encourage some performance DIMMs too, if you can.

Some people might be concerned with the life-span of DDR2 considering (the expensive) Nehalem platform just around the corner which will launch as triple channel DDR3 only (with Intel's X58 chipset), however the consumer side of this won't be available for another year yet and considering the epic price difference between DDR2 and DDR3, we'd still recommend a DDR2 setup for at least another quarter, even though DDR3 prices are beginning to drop quite rapidly now.

In all, there's no outright conclusion here - but like quad cores, we can't deny that having more spare resources available is always a good thing.

8GB FTW

edit: added source, sorry. i forgot.
Edited by wuyanxu - 7/8/08 at 3:09am
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The only time you should buy more ram is if you find yourself keeping 'Virtual Memory' enabled.
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I'm still looking for a 2x2GB kit I'm really happy with. I've got a buyer for my current G.Skill setup, but I'm not getting anywhere near as much as I paid for it (I bought back when the DDR2 price gouging was still in full swing).

Edit: But I really wish they tested that with Windows XP and Vista 32-bit, just to see how limited we really are by a 32-bit OS.
Edited by RayvinAzn - 7/8/08 at 2:27am
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.... Source?

Sounds interesting.

I'd probably get 8gb when Windows 7 is out (next year?) and that way I can get 64bit and 1200Mhz DDR2
    
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I have XP 64bit. And my 4 gigs (4x1) is worth it in a good amount of games. But, I have to say, over multi tasking and such. There really isn't a good increase for games and such. Though, things like RTSs run smoother. Just by a bit. I know Battle for Middle Earth II runs a bit better on a quad with 4 gigs then it does with a dual core. And there is a noticeable increase with 4 gigs over 2.
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The only time you should buy more ram is if you find yourself keeping 'Virtual Memory' enabled.

There is no reason to disable Virtual memory, it is always needed unless you have +8 gigs, and even then I would personally leave it enabled.

I thought I would never use 4gb, until last night when running 2 VM's folding, the GPU client, some apps, and unzipping a file I realized I had 200 mb left, and even then Windows was still snappy
    
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The only time you should buy more ram is if you find yourself keeping 'Virtual Memory' enabled.
Actually, not so with Vista. If you get 8gb of RAM, I think Vista uses as much of it as it can to make your computer faster. That's why so many people think it's a memory whore ... it isn't just using all your RAM because it sucks, it's using it, because it is there.

I have every intention of going to at least 6gb.
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Actually, not so with Vista. If you get 8gb of RAM, I think Vista uses as much of it as it can to make your computer faster. That's why so many people think it's a memory whore ... it isn't just using all your RAM because it sucks, it's using it, because it is there.

I have every intention of going to at least 6gb.
Very true, Vista uses what you got even if you have 8GB of RAM. The other day on my rig, Task Manager showed Vista using 7.9GB in Cache.
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Edit: But I really wish they tested that with Windows XP and Vista 32-bit, just to see how limited we really are by a 32-bit OS.
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I'm on a 32 bit OS - is it worth going from 2Gb to 4Gb (knowing it won't map more than about 3.5Gb due to graphics card)?
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