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Originally Posted by RayvinAzn View Post
You expect us to upgrade every three months? There's a pretty big difference between adding an extra 2x1GB kit to your rig for $20-$40 to help out performance a reasonable amount, and spending that much on RAM, then another $100 on the OS, and re-installing all your programs.

Yes, it's nice to point out for people building new rigs, but for those of us that might just be looking for a nice sub-$50 upgrade to tide us over for another year or so on our current machines might not actually feel the need to spend the time, effort, and money it takes to get a new OS up and running on your computer.

Another reason it would be nice to see Windows XP next to Vista is because Vista is known to use a lot of RAM (for good or bad is another debate, I'm not on either side here), but the gains seem from Windows XP might not be so great as they are in Vista 64-bit.
That's why I just installed Vista 64-bit in the first place?

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Use 2GB and Vista will idle with ~600MB, use 4GB and Vista will idle with ~1500MB, use 8GB and Vista will idle with over ~2300MB.
Exactly! Although I guess mine does more since I am always folding.
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That's why I just installed Vista 64-bit in the first place?
My computer was built several months before Vista. Hell, I haven't even been on XP for two years yet, my old rig was still running Windows 2000 (best OS they put out if you ask me).
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If you have 4GB of RAM and need some more, then yeah, Virtual RAM CAN save your ass from your PC freezing on you, if you use all 4GB of physical RAM up!

But my whole point is that it shouldn't have to come to that -- to where ALL your (physical) RAM is being used up -- to where it has to resort to using 'Virtual Memory' to compensate. Simply add more physical RAM to compensate. Don't let your harddrive get raped into operating like RAM in the first place! Big performance hit if it does!
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post #44 of 71
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Originally Posted by pauldovi View Post
Use 2GB and Vista will idle with ~600MB, use 4GB and Vista will idle with ~1500MB, use 8GB and Vista will idle with over ~2300MB.
close. but mine 64bit Vista idles at 1.7GB for me. then i add 1.5GB RAMdisk

the whole point of 4GB and 8GB is un-noticeable by 32bit operating systems. to keep results consistent, a 64bit OS is needed. and 64bit XP is junk, so Vista step in. simple as that
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Actually, not so with Vista. If you get 8gb of RAM, I think Vista uses as much of it as it can to make your computer faster. That's why so many people think it's a memory whore ... it isn't just using all your RAM because it sucks, it's using it, because it is there.

I have every intention of going to at least 6gb.
Vista is a memory hog with a awful memcacher tacked on. Going over 4GB and booting Windows is silly because Vista is still incompetent at managing large amounts of memory.
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Four gigabyte of memory is the sweet spot for both of my pc's ^_^.
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post #47 of 71
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You have to overwrite the files because all of your files are 32bit. You can't just patch them sadly.
That isn't true unless you installed XP on FAT32 (in which case, it was your fault in the first place!). Vista uses NTFS for both versions, and it will read from both.
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post #48 of 71
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That isn't true unless you installed XP on FAT32 (in which case, it was your fault in the first place!). Vista uses NTFS for both versions, and it will read from both.
Um, sure...
    
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heck yeah more memory is better

went from 1GB and upgraded to 4GB cant even tell you how much smoother everything runs
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post #50 of 71
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Originally Posted by Diabolical999 View Post
If you have 4GB of RAM and need some more, then yeah, Virtual RAM CAN save your ass from your PC freezing on you, if you use all 4GB of physical RAM up!

But my whole point is that it shouldn't have to come to that -- to where ALL your (physical) RAM is being used up -- to where it has to resort to using 'Virtual Memory' to compensate. Simply add more physical RAM to compensate. Don't let your harddrive get raped into operating like RAM in the first place! Big performance hit if it does!
page filing/Virtual memory is a good thing, and really should never be disabled. Its not a "big performance hit", but it may be a slight performance hit..

Alot of hype on the web about things about pc's are incorrect or really over-exaggerated.
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