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Well im looking to sell my ps3 and get some pc parts. i already have a case,psu, and thats the only good stuff that i have lol.

well i need is ram,cpu,mobo,and gpu. ram, i dont really need i think. i have 3gb ddr2 533mhz corsair valu select.

i was thinking of getting a e7200,epds3l, and either a 9800gtx for $209 from bfg at newegg, or a xfx 8800gt. if anyone can find me better parts for the same valu then i'd be happy to take a look and hopefully get those parts. i only play battlefield 2, cod4, battlefield 2142, need for speed carbon. im planning on buying the new call of duty when it comes out. so i want some parts that will last 2 years for games. with at least 30fps.

my specs right now are:
case-thermaltake armor va8000bws
gpu-bfg 7600gt
cpu-amd 4200x2 am2
mobo- k9n4sli-f (dosent support 6000 series so this is why im going with intel. amd blows.)
psu-corsair vx550
fans- rosewell 120mm white led fans. they throw out a decent amount of air. i got a swamp cooler in my room so it dosent overheat.


if you guys can find me a good amd setup that can keep up with a e8200 oe e7200 then ill go with amd, but i doubt theres a cpu of amd that i dont have to overclock to get to the intel performance. i dont know how to overclock, this is why i come here to read tutorials well thanks for your help.
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Trust me, you do need new RAM. With current motherboards, the RAM you have might not even boot, let alone overclock.

If you have a little more to spend, I'd get this:
  • DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard $129.99
  • VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail $194.99
  • Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7200 - Retail $129.99
  • G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail $84.99
Subtotal: $539.96

If you can't afford that, drop down to 2GB of RAM, like this kit:
SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 - Retail $39.99

That knocks $45 of the total, and brings you to right around $500.

I'd pick the DFI board over the EP35-DS3L any day. Much better overclocking functionality, and just the better board altogether. Also, I'd choose the 4850 over the 9800GTX, but that's a closer call.
Edited by Chozart - 7/8/08 at 2:41pm
    
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post #3 of 18
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
Trust me, you do need new RAM. With current motherboards, the RAM you have might not even boot, let alone overclock.

If you have a little more to spend, I'd get this:
  • DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard $129.99VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail $194.99
  • Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7200 - Retail $129.99
  • G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail $84.99
Subtotal: $539.96

If you can't afford that, drop down to 2GB of RAM, like this kit:
SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 - Retail $39.99

That knocks $45 of the total, and brings you to right around $500.

I'd pick the DFI board over the EP35-DS3L any day. Much better overclocking functionality, and just the better board altogether. Also, I'd choose the 4850 over the 9800GTX, but that's a closer call.
How would his ram not even boot? If it can run at 533, then it'll run at 533.
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ok hold on. well i wont need a gpu i think. i know if i get a intel setup, ill defintely get 10-15fps more with the same card on a intel setup i think lol. my 7600gt runs fine for the games i play. only time ill need to upgrade will be for battlefield 3 once it comes out. so lets forget about the gpu, yeah? i can upgrade that later on, plus i found a 8800gtx on craigslist for $200
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The GPU is your bottleneck right now, so upgrading the CPU/MoBo/RAM won't help you in terms of FPS.

@ Pasha: simple. Most current motherboards don't support DDR2 533 anymore. So it simply won't run at all.
    
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
Trust me, you do need new RAM. With current motherboards, the RAM you have might not even boot, let alone overclock.

If you have a little more to spend, I'd get this:
  • DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard $129.99
  • VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail $194.99
  • Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7200 - Retail $129.99
  • G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail $84.99
Subtotal: $539.96

If you can't afford that, drop down to 2GB of RAM, like this kit:
SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 - Retail $39.99

That knocks $45 of the total, and brings you to right around $500.

I'd pick the DFI board over the EP35-DS3L any day. Much better overclocking functionality, and just the better board altogether. Also, I'd choose the 4850 over the 9800GTX, but that's a closer call.
I Agree 100% on all that - but the OP should get the G.Skill RAM you suggested, not the talent. I also corrected your little mistake.
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ok, but how does this ram work with this mobo if the mobo standard is at 800mhz and the ram is standard at 1000mhz. can it even boot at all? i thought the ram had to be the same or lower then the standard if the mobo to run and boot, and not be over...
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I Agree 100% on all that - but the OP should get the G.Skill RAM you suggested, not the talent. I also corrected your little mistake.
Thanks for fixing. Edited
    
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ok, but how does this ram work with this mobo if the mobo standard is at 800mhz and the ram is standard at 1000mhz. can it even boot at all? i thought the ram had to be the same or lower then the standard if the mobo to run and boot, and not be over...
It will boot and be detected as 800mhz RAM. You can then put the RAM at its stock speed by using the memory dividers.
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
Trust me, you do need new RAM. With current motherboards, the RAM you have might not even boot, let alone overclock.

If you have a little more to spend, I'd get this:
  • DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard $129.99
  • VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail $194.99
  • Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7200 - Retail $129.99
  • G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail $84.99
Subtotal: $539.96

If you can't afford that, drop down to 2GB of RAM, like this kit:
SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 - Retail $39.99

That knocks $45 of the total, and brings you to right around $500.

I'd pick the DFI board over the EP35-DS3L any day. Much better overclocking functionality, and just the better board altogether. Also, I'd choose the 4850 over the 9800GTX, but that's a closer call.
i second this is the best you can get with $500
    
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