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go with a black ice gt xtreme 360 or 480 for the radiator
i think they are absolutely awesome

ive got the 360 on my quad(3.4) and it doesnt break 50c with extremely low cfm fans
with high cfm i think i could keep it at maybe 38-40
Edited by thehighlander123 - 7/8/08 at 8:10pm
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Black ice gt xtreme radiators cost twice as much lol I mean i know ill get what i pay for but - will the 360 cool just aswell?

I was thinking that i might set up two 320s after im settled and decide maybe to do gpu cooling....
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by the look of it though the 480 does own...

zzzz kinda stuck... can the 320 handle a 3.8-4ghz q6600 + two oced 9800gtx's ???

could two 320s handle that???

could one 480 handle that???

LOL

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by the look of it though the 480 does own...

zzzz kinda stuck... can the 320 handle a 3.8-4ghz q6600 + two oced 9800gtx's ???
sure, if you don't mind loud fans and not very good temps. check out the link ira-k posted, that would be similar to OC'd quad core and 8800gtx sli. Maybe about a 530W heat load since the 9800gtx vs. 8800 gtx based on power consumption numbers (ram heat should be about the same, so I assume the ~15W more is output from the core). or assume the same load for OC'd 9800gtx, also simpler

The number to look at is either yate loon 1550 RPM(high speed yates at a reasonable noise level): 12C over ambient, or Scythe 2000rpm (not too far from high speed Yate's) 9.2C over ambient.
***better with shrouds and/or in push/pull***

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could one 480 handle that???
compare that for the 480gtx numbers Martin has been kind enough to provide for us (Thanks Martin!!):
9.5C/ 6.2C over ambient.

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could two 320s handle that???
thats where things get a little trickier as I am not aware of a similar chart for 2 320's. remember that changing parts changes the resistance of the loop and therefore the flow rate. Flow affects cooling capacity of the cpu/gpu blocks, but also very much the rads as you can see from martins testing.

Luckily the estimated change in flow rate isn't very great going from 1rad-->2rads, so a straight doubling in heat removal capacity isn't TOO bad of an approximation

this leaves us in the 6.4C/4.8C region which is quite reasonable. Taking a look at the cpu/gpu blocks cooling capacity over @ swiftnets.com leads me to conclude that their respective cooling capacities will not be adversely affected by the flow decrease either.

Lastly I want to point out that these are the water temp that the rad(s) will maintain, and the temp the first block following them should see. If you have 1 radiator and 3 blocks, the third block is going to have mighty hot water. Even if 1 radiator can handle the load, having 2 spaced out through your loop will keep your temps better all around.

To summarize, my 320rad followed by upgrade to 2x 320 rad if adding a gpu's.

PS. the 360 will offer performance very similar to the PA120.3, listed in the 480GTX link.
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if i went (which i think i will) get two 320s in the long run how exactly do you mount two radiators??? Is this going to be fragile or extrodinarly ugly?

lol


really considering just sticking to cpu cooling - the 9800gtx that i have now runs on load between 55 and 60 w/ 100% fan (acutally will do the same at 75% fan which is much quieter)

I figure a second one should do the same... perhaps even do the step up program and get a 9800gtx + which are supposed to be cooler.

the 790i Ultra board has this funking fan i saw facing the cpu - Is all of the removable? (w/o destroying anything.. - sorry i know thats a bit off topic too .. just thought id ask since i will be putting a block on there and think that the fan might get in the way..)

thanks again everyone

000
and after reading more on that 480 im almost ready to drop the $ into that... will take some time though 2 save it up lol

HMMMMM
suggestions?
if i go w/ cpu cooling only - hoping that the 9800's stay cool like they are now...(why wouldnt they lol)

should i just use the 320?
Edited by pcguru000 - 7/8/08 at 10:37pm
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Just came across this.... would be a great if it acutally is a feasible idea... have you guys heard anytihng on these?

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You wont see many of us with anything good to say about Zalman, Koolance or ThermalTake water cooling gear, they use mixed metals, sub par quality, and are almost impossible to upgrade..Its just junk as far as I'm concerned...But if you are just looking for silence something like that might suit your needs..
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wasnt really eventhinking about it for the silent - but wouldnt a radiator of that size (i mean compare it to the radiator youd have in a car) disperse LOADS of heat??

Its built to sit and use the rooms natural air flow - hot air flows up ... this seems slow and ineffeincet but you re built the base of it w/ a box fan blowing upward underneath it (or even just build a box and put a small 12" fan under it facing up ward in the box) wouldnt that blow LOADS of air right up the thing giving massive ammounts of heat removal?? It would essentially be one huge radiator...

Am I in lala land?
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wasnt really eventhinking about it for the silent - but wouldnt a radiator of that size (i mean compare it to the radiator youd have in a car) disperse LOADS of heat??

Its built to sit and use the rooms natural air flow - hot air flows up ... this seems slow and ineffeincet but you re built the base of it w/ a box fan blowing upward underneath it (or even just build a box and put a small 12" fan under it facing up ward in the box) wouldnt that blow LOADS of air right up the thing giving massive ammounts of heat removal?? It would essentially be one huge radiator...

Am I in lala land?
I already told you what I think about them, on that model guys have come through here with dead and dieing pumps, they cant get the pump out of the thing with-out cutting it out, the pumps are weak, the blocks are garbage...From all i've seen and heard they only cool about like a good HSF will if there lucky....Thats not WC'ing, its just something you can stick on your rig and tell non-water-coolers that you are WC'ed...
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thinkin ill just save my money up and get a 480 then... what kinda temps you guys think a q6600 @ 4ghz would put out w/ a 480 and the rest of my proposed loop above give me...
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