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Yeh but they are saying that the technology already exists, they just need to tweak it and mass produce it, why not put more money into it to speed up the process instead of blowing money on the stuff in between,
If they jumped straight to 22nm the yields would drop to a tenth of what they are now. The "tweaking" and maturing that the technology needs to do is only possible by manufacturing larger process sizes and working towards 22nm being economically feasible. The technology does exist, but only if you want to pay a few grand for a CPU
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but remember, every smaller process increases the chip count per wafer though, sure, not enough to counter the massive amounts of money they would have to throw at it to get it within a year or two, but hey, just throwing it out there. Besides, if chip factories did that, it would force proc companies like intel and amd to do other things, like improve architecture.

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If they jumped straight to 22nm the yields would drop to a tenth of what they are now. The "tweaking" and maturing that the technology needs to do is only possible by manufacturing larger process sizes and working towards 22nm being economically feasible. The technology does exist, but only if you want to pay a few grand for a CPU

Maybe not a couple thousand, but they are at $1500 at the max already.
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but remember, every smaller process increases the chip count per wafer though, sure, not enough to counter the massive amounts of money they would have to throw at it to get it within a year or two, but hey, just throwing it out there. Besides, if chip factories did that, it would force proc companies like intel and amd to do other things, like improve architecture.

Maybe not a couple thousand, but they are at $1500 at the max already.
No - a couple thousand. They would be $1500 minimum if they skip nodes, especially now as the limits of lithography approach. There would be more chips per wafer, but the yield would drop much more drastically. The manufacturing technology just isn't good enough to produce anything like the yields required to operate in the CPU market.

There is a reason that these companies do not skip nodes, the reason is that it is not economically feasible
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