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This is probably a bad idea asking on an overclocking forum but...

Currently I have:

Athlon XP 2800+ Barton 2.09Ghz
ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe
2x 512mb Crucial DDR 333MHz/PC2700 RAM
Sapphire Radeon X1650 PRO 256MB AGP

Yes, I know it's old as the hills but it's been fine for my usage, until recently where more and more games need SSE2 like Grid, Assassins Creed, Devil May Cry 4 etc. This is annoying as I can play Crysis, COD4, Stalker, BioShock, Oblivion etc to a level that's acceptable for me.

So basically my question is, what is the barest minimum upgrade I can perform? Obviously I need to replace my CPU and motherboard, but I want to keep my existing ram and graphics card.

Having looked through the list of CPU's that have SSE2 on Wiki, I presume an Athlon 64 or even a Sempron 64 would be ok? In which case what specific CPU would be the wisest purchase? By wisest I don't mean the fastest, but which would be the best in terms of 'bang per buck'. The same goes for motherboard.

Also what socket? 754, 939 or even AM2 (unlikely maybe)? I guess my main problem is that I'm unsure what motherboard would still be able to use my PC2700 RAM and AGP card. If I knew what would be a good/fast mobo that could still use my existing RAM & graphics card, I could probably decide what CPU to go for or at least it'd make it easier.

Clearly I'm not looking to spend a lot at all (no more than £40), so the cheaper the better and I'll most likely be buying from eBay. Performance that matches or even slightly betters my current CPU/mobo (I presume that won't be difficult) would be ideal.

Thanks for any help/info and please don't tell me to upgrade to a completely new system with a C2D processor or whatever as I do not wish to go that far.

Also, apologies if this is posted in the wrong forum section, I'm not sure what this post would be classified as.
Edited by cracker - 7/8/08 at 11:34pm
post #2 of 8
You'll want s754 or if you can find an AGP s939 board.

EDIT


actually you can pick up an Intel S775 chip and mate it with this ASRock motherboard.

It has AGP, PCI-E, DDR2 and DDR

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...l=775Dual-vsta


And woot 4 flames!
Edited by Penicilyn - 7/8/08 at 10:58pm
post #3 of 8
AM2 uses DDR2, so no go there. There are some 775 boards that support DDR, but getting one of those and an Intel chip would likely go over your budget. If you don't mind used, you should be able to find a plethora of 754 or 939 setups that will suit your needs. I'm pretty sure most if not all the 754 boards support AGP and all of the NF3 939 boards do. You can also find boards similar to that ASRock that have AGP and are 939 (they use the ULI chipset). I have this one and it works great.

Going from a Barton to any of the newer chips is a worthy upgrade, but since you'll be GPU-bound with that x1650, you don't have to go TOO far out. If you can find a good deal on an x2 chip, go for it since it'll improve your general computing experience as well. If not, it's not that big of a deal.
Edited by heretic - 7/8/08 at 11:06pm
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Cracker, you'll definitely have to take a look at Ebay for socket 754 and socket 939. S939 will be difficult to find. The boards and processors are becoming harder and harder to find everyday. If you don't have any luck with Ebay, check out the For Sale section here on the forum.

For socket 939 you'll only be able to go with a board that sports the nForce 3 chipset. If your interested I was actually selling a DFI nForce 3 board here on the forum. PM if you have questions.

Another good board was the Gigabyte K8N series. Those boards also support AGP and DDR memory.

I hope you find what your looking for.

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lol...

I have a agp 754 mobo and a 754 3200+ and 1gb (2 x 512) budget ram and a 6800 512mb agp card...

I'll get rid of the whole setup on the cheap if you want the upgrade... PM for deets...
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Really quick,

before I look for anything else; What is your budget???
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Penicilyn, thanks that 775Dual-VSTA seems good but is also, from what I can find, rare. There's 1 merchant who'll sell it new at £40 and 1 seller on ebay who's price is much lower, but I'm not sure what reserve is set on it.

heretic, indeed it seems my budget would be over if I went for a 775 board (as seen above). I don't mind used at all (providing it works), in fact I was expecting I'd have to buy used due to me looking at such old hardware. I didn't realise ASRock made such relatively new mobo's that supported older components.

As you say, an upgrade from the Barton to anything newer would result in a likely huge boost in performance, but I'm not sure how far (CPU wise) to go. Choice is good, but when you've got all the 754 boards and some 939, it makes choosing things a bit too tough
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My budget is £40 as mentioned in my first post - British pounds so therefore UK only unfortunately. I think the postage would cost an arm and leg is it was sent from America to UK
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