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lol,dump the pool ,dump the window thingy,dump the waterblocks,,

GO PELTIER

Then u will say my pc is freezing my room...
Peltiers would result in lower temps for the chips they're on; but in the process of cooling the cold side they themselves are creating more heat, so the result would actually be higher room temps.


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Oakdale. The air is middle to low humidity, and hot. It's not quite the blast furnace that you have in Mojave down South, but close enough for me.
perfect environment for an evaporative cooling tower
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Oakdale. The air is middle to low humidity, and hot. It's not quite the blast furnace that you have in Mojave down South, but close enough for me.

The room that I am talking about is garage, has no windows, has two doors. One of them is a side door. And yes it's hooked into the AC. But since I can't use it, well you get the point. Plus it's sheet rocked thanks to the fire portion of the building code. Basically by about 2PM if I run this rig the temperature in here syncs up with the outside, and it's just plain miserable.

And for those wondering the electric bill will be much higher for the entire Summer than a WC setup like this.
Oh, wow--so temps where you have the rig reach outside temps? Man, that's no good--likely the water-cooling setup you were mentioning won't work so well since the reservoir will reach 100F+ under bad conditions--so at best under the worst conditions, your stuff might idle around 40C, give or take (likely higher than that though) with a water cooling setup. Damn... Under these conditions, I think perhaps air cooling might be better since you won't have to worry about the water retaining so much heat throughout the day...
    
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Peltiers would result in lower temps for the chips they're on; but in the process of cooling the cold side they themselves are creating more heat, so the result would actually be higher room temps.




perfect environment for an evaporative cooling tower
Sorry for the double-post. I guess it's true about the peltier's creating higher ambient temperatures, but they would do what the OP wants--keep the components cool (I think that's what the point is, though I might be mistaken). The problem is that with such high ambient temps, his rig is already running hot. OP, please correct me if I'm wrong.
    
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A bong cooler is just a odd ball way of cooling, for 24/7 use they aren't that great since they are a open loop..You really cant use any biocides in it because they vaporize into the air, they tend to slime over pretty fast..The lower the humidity the better they will cool..Might not slime over as fast either in low humididty, but I don't know...You have to re-fill them daily because of evaporation...I have seen a couple of guys use a toilet float and valve in them hard plumbed into the house water supply, that would sure help keep it topped off...

Not to discourage you from making one, I think everyone should make at least one to play with...They will get you sub-ambient...
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A bong cooler is just a odd ball way of cooling, for 24/7 use they aren't that great since they are a open loop..You really cant use any biocides in it because they vaporize into the air, they tend to slime over pretty fast..The lower the humidity the better they will cool..Might not slime over as fast either in low humididty, but I don't know...You have to re-fill them daily because of evaporation...I have seen a couple of guys use a toilet float and valve in them hard plumbed into the house water supply, that would sure help keep it topped off...

Not to discourage you from making one, I think everyone should make at least one to play with...They will get you sub-ambient...
So, is a bong cooler just another term for a swamp-cooler? I'm getting that's the gist, but not sure...
    
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So, is a bong cooler just another term for a swamp-cooler? I'm getting that's the gist, but not sure...
Yeah its just a evaporative cooler made with PVC pipe, they have a shower-head in the top that vaporizes the water, the water falls down 5 or 6' and is cooled more with a fan blowing on it, then from the base it goes on through your loop, the re-turn line goes back up to the shower head..

Nothing to them, its just they are a open loop and will slime over pretty fast..At least they do here, the humidity here is usually 80+..

..NoL's Bong Guide

..DirtyDuck is making one here...waterblock build...DIY FTW!

Just Google "Bong Cooler" and you will get a bunch of plans for them..
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I'm running my Ubuntu box right now, it only has a 6800GT which flings out a lot lees heat, which annoys me because I want to be playing GTR2 right now or test drive. I've looked at ducting the heat outside, but I don't have an existing point of exit, when Dad helped my Uncle rebuild this garage they did a bang up job.

My Uncle did say that he wouldn't mind my using the pool since it doesn't have a heater on it, but again I have no way to get the pipe into the garage and still keep the garage sealed. Plus any pump big enough to keep the water flowing is bound to use a fair amount of juice, thus putting me back at square one. I even thought about tapping into the water heater but unfortunately it would reach capacity at some point.

The energy has to go somewhere. Stupid physics.
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Can you not just duct the warm air out the door?
    
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I guess it's true about the peltier's creating higher ambient temperatures, but they would do what the OP wants--keep the components cool (I think that's what the point is, though I might be mistaken).
The OP wants to have lower temps in the room more so than lower chip temps.
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The OP wants to have lower temps in the room more so than lower chip temps.
Oh, I see. I guess I mis-understood that. Well, if the goal is to lower room temps, then the only way to do that would be to remove heat from the room (as opposed to different ways of cooling the computer)--cooling the computer differently won't change the temps of the room because you're just using different methods to move around the heat between the computer and the room as opposed to cooling the room... Maybe if there were some "cool pipe" setup using the pool water and a fan--put the pool water through some metal tubing with an array of radiator grills, and blow a fan across it to cool the room (the warm water return goes back to the pool)--but it seems to me that the computer isn't what's making the room so warm--that's just 'cause of ambient temps, so cooling the computer differently likely wouldn't change much.

On the other hand, if the goal is to run the computer cooler despite ambient temps, then peltiers are the way to go--except that might take as much power as running an air conditioning unit modestly...
    
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