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Intel processors are much faster than AMD in video editing

Check these reviews

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...0_7.html#sect0
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3293&p=7
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...b,1728-40.html

Also, you haven't explained why you think that Core 2 Duo is not impressive ?

Anyway, if you want to get Intel then get Q6600 or E7200 if you are on budget. And get a P45 or P43 motherboard
see most of these test are rubish to me. they don't say anything to me. the fps encoding, is kinda low to be honest. even ripping a dvd movie down to 700 megs with vdub, i get much higher frames per second than any of their test show. i get between 175 fps to 295 fps, depending on what i set the resolution filter at.

and right now, divx is capable of utilizing as many threads as you want it too, same with vdub and xvid. we did another test my friend and i, and we set the affinity to one core for the process's, oh buddy, did that make a difference, i dropped from about 4 minutes an encode, to over 6 hours, he dropped from 7 minutes to 4 hours.

even before we upgraded our software and set the threading capabilities of them, i will admit, his was faster. but as soon as we optimized our software for multithreading and multicores, the speed difference became drastic. 4 minutes, vs 7 minutes.

i even downloaded the programs they said they were using, didn't know the settings they were using, so i set them to what we use, and the results are the same, my 5000+ be beats out the intel e6000 in encoding.

so yeah, if you hide the results, by not configuring the software correctly to run multi threaded or to use multiple cores, the results are different. later, i will post screen shots of vdub running fully optimized on both machines, i will use probably a dvd rip of a tv series that we make to watch on cellphones when we travel.

they are usually 350 megabyte encoded to avi format, using vdub, i will knock them down to around 100 megs and show screen caps of each.

later,
trans
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my rig:
cpu: amd athlon 5000+ $50.00 usd
motherboard: biostar ta770 a2+ $70.00 usd
memory: 2 gig g.skills ddr2 pc800mhz $40.00
fan heatsink: freezer pro $30 usd.
total: $190.00

i used the case and harddrives from my previous rig, same as the moniter.
this was 3 months ago, i spent less than 200 dollars on what i would honestly say, a pretty good machine. btw, my graphics card is a nvdia 7800 gtx.

my friends rig, built it 3 months prior to mine.
cpu: e6600 $230 usd. (right there, he spent more on his cpu than i did on my entire rig.)
motherboard: abit $200 (not sure of the exact model.)
memory: same as mine, but he paid $80 for his.
fan heatsink: i want to say zalman, i think he spent around $100 for it.
total: $610 usd.
The E6600 was discontinued long time ago and Intel didn't drop the price for E6600. So, your friend is really stupid because he could get E7200 for $129.99, and it is better than the discontinued E6600. Moreover, you can get Quad core (Q6600) or E8400 for cheaper price than your friends E6600.

And for the motherboard, you can get a good sub $100 Intel motherboard

Here is an example

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138122
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128337

Moreover, you don't have to buy the expensive RAM and the expensive heatsink that your friend bought, if you build an Intel rig.
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do what i do, throw out consistant low-ball bids on eBay and you eventually get what you want at the price you want,

you just have to be patient
    
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Get the 6400 Black Edition, I have it, it rocks, I also convert movies to dvd, although not for a living like you do. I bet you get a lot of old wrinkly people calling you and asking you if you are able to convert their old reel- to reel wedding movies to dvd? who the hell wants to watch something made in the 1800's? I just got done watching "The Happening" great movie, although mark wahlburg is a queer. good luck!
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I'd say wait and upgrade when the AM3 socket comes out.
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Isn't the AM3 socket chips supposed to work on AM2+ boards? If so just wait till the new chip comes out you already have everything else.
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here is a screen cap of my 5000+x2 in action encoding a dvd rip i made of ncis first ep. i am using vdub 1.8 with multi core's enabled and divx 6.3 i believe, at normal encoding, with a bitrate of 250. audio is ac3 80kbps 48000 mhz.

the final size of the video file will about 105 megs, from 350 megs. resolution will be in the area of 320 w. the average time on an encode like this is between 3 1/2 minutes to 4 1/2 minutes. it balances itself out to be around 3 m 44 seconds.

now if i was making a 350 meg file from a vob files, it will take about 8 minutes.


actually most of the people that are clients, want to take their home videos and turn them into a dvd, and take their photos and do like a slide show with them. i would show you what we do, but we sign a privacy agreement with them, which means i can't show their video's to any one else.

we did get a call once, from an older gentlemen, who wanted us to turn his 8 mm into a dvd, we had to tell him we weren't equipped to do that. so he brought in a bunch of old photos, from like the 1800's to now, and want us to do a slide show of a family photo album, that was actually a fun project.
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Isn't the AM3 socket chips supposed to work on AM2+ boards? If so just wait till the new chip comes out you already have everything else.
If that is true, then I wonder if another BIOS update will happen allowing that considering a lot of the AM2 boards are AM2+ compatible with a BIOS update. That would be ace.

Oh and transhour, if you decide on another CPU and plan to sell that 5000BE, consider it sold.
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Yea AMD has said that the AM3 will work with AM2+ boards just support DDR2 on those and AM3 will use DDR3
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