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Hey guys,

Great thread, I was just about to post up the same question but for my mobo.

Firstly, I have no idea how to overclock a CPU even though I have a supposed great O/C mobo (maybe someone could point me in the right direction for instrcutions), all i know how to change is the RAM timings.

I'm at the point of upgrading my Graf card to single GTX260, my PSU to 850 watts, my RAM to OZC Platinum 2x2 GB 800mhz.

However, I'm stuck as to what CPU to upgrade to:

6400+ Black Edition or Phenom X4 9750.

Purely a gaming rig nothing else, at 1680 x 1050 rez, play CoD4 etc etc and want to play at extremely high game settings.

Your advice is most welcome.
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post #22 of 36
Firstly, welcome to OCN.

As far as new RAM goes, 2x2 GB sticks would be unnecessary if you have Windows XP since XP can only read 3.5gb due to it being 32bit. You would need to upgrade to Vista x64 to get anything more than that.

And as far as a CPU goes, I would go for the quad if you can afford it. The 6400 is a nice chip don't get me wrong, but I think there are a lot better options out there. It can't go very far in overclocking and the 5000BE can get there with little to no effort for a lot cheaper.

The new Phenoms, especially the 9850 has proven to be very successful so far, even if it doesn't do great in the overclocking department right now.(rumor has it the new AMD chipset makes the Phenoms something to be reckoned with)
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post #23 of 36
Hey Fossil,

Thanks for the reply, I heard a 9950 Phenom was around but can't find anyone that stocks in down here in Oz.

My current OZC gold 800mhz are set at 5-5-5-15-2T timings with RAM set to 533 in BIOS to overclock, is this correct ??
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post #24 of 36
okay i got get a 6400+ u won't regret it...plus they are discontinuing them!!!! the x4 aren't for gaming they are more for movie editing and other more strenuous applications...when it comes to everyday computing unless you overclock the quads they are worthless actually found to be less performance than the 6400+

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...4,1935-10.html
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post #25 of 36
So I should go with a 6400+ Black Edition and overclock it if I knew how to. As I said purely gaming rig nothing else.
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post #26 of 36
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Originally Posted by NormanD View Post
Hey Fossil,

Thanks for the reply, I heard a 9950 Phenom was around but can't find anyone that stocks in down here in Oz.

My current OZC gold 800mhz are set at 5-5-5-15-2T timings with RAM set to 533 in BIOS to overclock, is this correct ??
The 9950 just barely came out over here in the last week so you should be seeing them sometime soon.

You're tellin me the frequency is 533mhz?! Whoa man, I'm pretty sure stock is like 373mhz or at least that is what my RAM is clocked at stock. So you effectively have 2gb's of DDR2 1066, haha.

I don't know much about dual-cores to quad comparison as far as gaming goes. I mean it is effectively twice the power but AMD is still working on getting these quads into safe waters considering how much more powerful Intel's are.

I would get a 5000BE instead of the 6400. It is discontinued as of a few days ago, so it might be a wee bit hard to find one. But you can easily overclock it to 3.2ghz, which is the stock clock on a 6400. I've heard people have a hard time getting a 6400 to OC at all. The 5000BE has reached over of 3.5ghz on air cooling however. Just something to think about.
Edited by Fossil - 7/10/08 at 6:34pm
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post #27 of 36
Yeah,

I bought the RAM off ebay ( OCZ 2GB DDR2-800 PC2-6400 XTC GOLD REVISION 2 @4-5-5-15 1T ) with those timings. I was in another thread here and a guy told me to change my timings to 5-5-5-15-2T and then go into the RAM settings 533/667/800 and change it from auto down to 533 then save and it should overclock.

Ok, so if I have the RAM set up like this it is definatley overclocked ?
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post #28 of 36
well i would say the 6400+ BE because it is the most powerful dual core amd cpu...and because they won't make anymore of them....

having a quad over a dual is like having a bus vs. a car yes the bus can get more ppl in it to go somewhere but if you only have use of a car why get the bus you will just waste ur money and not use its full potential...same thing goes with cpus..
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post #29 of 36
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so basically you are all saying, wait for the 45 nm phenom's, get a am3 mobo when they come out, and for right now, be happy with my 5000+ @ 3.1 ghz and get another 500 gig sata
honestly if ur at 3.1 the 6400 is 3.2 i had one it didnt oc very well and was HOT its 125w i believe.

i got a q6600 at 2.4 and it absolutly DESTROYS my old 6400, i know its not = being 2-4 cores but still i paid 250 for the 6400 when it was newish (october 07) and 250 for the quad 4 months later

i would stick with what you have save your money for something newer and better i really wish i got a 5000 be instead of the 6400be, just my 2 cents
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post #30 of 36
Does anyone know or have heard of anything new (dual core AM2) coming out from AMD in the near future, if so, I may hang on.

At present though if there is no more development or CPU's coming out for AM2 boards, I may as well try and find a 6400+ Black Edition and think about upgrading again in 18 months or so with a new mobo also.

What do you guys think.
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