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You have two potential problems with this idea - the first is that execs in the game industry are like execs in any industry, blood-sucking control freaks that simply couldn't stand letting the customer tailor the game to do what THEY want it to do instead of how it was meant for them to do. The second is that with the open source community you get games that are years behind tech-wise. Plus that means an end to professionally made single player games as they need no service that can be charged for.

So what are we looking at for a successful business model strictly for game devs?

1)digital distribution - game tap, steam, et cetera.

2) Alex St. John said it best:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2277870,00.asp

Real time ray tracing will make the games much cheaper to program. That's why Microsoft is including it in DX11, and I'm sure that the Khronos group will follow suit with Opengl if it's not already in there.
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=526

I keep harping on ray tracing because it's the biggie. Once the games cost half to eighty percent less to make they don't have to sell as many copies to turn a big profit. Combined with digital distribution It would lower the cost of game design back to where a small game dev could theoretically not need a publisher. This would also have the effect of lowering piracy worries so that paying customers wouldn't get punished for what they aren't doing through sercurom and other draconian security measures.

I'm sure there's other things that need to change but at the moment I can't think of any.
And end to proffesionally produced single player games? Maybe. But if FOSS codebases were put out there, like Source (the game engine by Valve) for example, then imagine the possibilities. With a decent base, the FOSS community could produce something amazing. If you don't believe me, go look at the modding community, for example 'Black Mesa' - a group of people are recreating Half Life 1 in the Source engine properly, redoing the entire game with up-to-date graphics. It's incredible.

I'm not saying that's the only way forward, or even necisarily the best. I have said before that content distribution systems like Steam are highly effective, and a way forward for the games industry, along with epesodic gaming.

But I'd like to see games come along through that model, as I think it has promise.
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The problem is; is that people will still pirate the game.

With this, you get the game for free, but cant get say, "elite" gear, or things like that.
Thing is, More than half the money that is lost to pirates usually comes from the game devs putting in anti-pirate measures.

And having no protection works as well, Look at Sins of a Solar Empire.
    
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well that sucks, There is no way im going to play a game in which the only way to be awesome is to have monies to buy everything awesome.
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What if they put the entire game server side?
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And end to proffesionally produced single player games? Maybe. But if FOSS codebases were put out there, like Source (the game engine by Valve) for example, then imagine the possibilities. With a decent base, the FOSS community could produce something amazing. If you don't believe me, go look at the modding community, for example 'Black Mesa' - a group of people are recreating Half Life 1 in the Source engine properly, redoing the entire game with up-to-date graphics. It's incredible.

I'm not saying that's the only way forward, or even necisarily the best. I have said before that content distribution systems like Steam are highly effective, and a way forward for the games industry, along with epesodic gaming.

But I'd like to see games come along through that model, as I think it has promise.
Have you played any of the FREESPACE projects? I have Beyond the Red Line on both my Windows and Ubuntu boxes and it's amazing. I wish that they would finish it already Plus, you have to check out The Babylon Project, and the Robotech TC has even been revived. Black Mesa has been second only to Deus Ex: Reborn on my mod watch list.

But if these are going to be the standards for single player experiences, I'd personally prefer they keep things proprietary, if for no other reason than development time. IS FOSS a great thing? Absa-frakkin-lutely. But should it be the only thing? Nope.

OpenGL is how to give Linux and Mac an even playing field with Windows, and I wish the game devs would switch over or start adding an OGL version like Spector did with Deus Ex a months after it's release.

One other thing that I've noticed about every single example you and I have listed is that none of them represent a brand new IP. For that matter every one of them uses or will use traditional set in stone gameplay. They may very well be great games, but nothing new, nothing groundbreaking. If these are the best that the community has to offer, then I submit that games like Mirror's Edge simply wouldn't be happening. And that would be a real shame.
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No. Just no. I won't buy any game like this.
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No. Just no. I won't buy any game like this.
Thats the idea! It's free, you don't have to buy it!
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Some of these types of games aren't half bad. Like Gunbound. Sure you can pay, but most people won't hah.
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This would only work with MMO's. This won't worth with any other genre.
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quake 4 anyone?
it verified its key online before starting.

EDITED for too much info
Even that was crackable. You needed to add some line to a windows text file. 127.0.0.1 quake4 gamemaster blah blah, apply a crack and it worked..

They really need to come up with something better or just cut the prices in half. I bet if they would do that they would sell 3x as many copies as they do now.
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