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Am I the only one whose found the 9800GTX to out perform the 4850 (Ive owned both)

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Well this rig has a P35 board in it. As you know P35 has CrossFire, however its hacked through the SB and runs 16x + 4x. I owned two 4850s for a little bit, the second one severly bottlenecked by the +4.

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Anyways,
3dmark06, with 4850s:
Single: 12986
CrossFireX: 16310

I traded them in, got $200 back, and bought an XFX 9800GTX for $200:
3dmark06:
14,576

In my situation, on time of the card beating the single 4850 head to head, I've found my framerates stay constant in more games with the 9800GTX. Now don't get me wrong, I got higher framerates obviously with the hacked CrossFireX, but still, I can't imagine how well two 9800GTXs in SLi would perform. Maybe its just me. Every benchmark I read online says the 4850 is better.

Another issue for me was - none of ATi's drivers worked properly in Vista x64
Edited by shmu - 7/10/08 at 11:04am
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Its probably because of the ATI Vista x64 drivers that are crappy for Vista. The Nvidia drivers for Vista x64 are good.I think ill stick to Nvidia because I have Vista x64 then. So maybe that means the 9800GTX Plus will out perform the 4850 then possibly.
 
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Because synthetic benchmarks mean soooooo much
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Because synthetic benchmarks mean soooooo much
I think a part of that is because the 9800GTX has PhysX and CUDA built in.

But still ...
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Doesn't the 4850 out perform the 9800gtx in games ?
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I love my 9800GTX's. I hit 18k in mark06 in SLI... cant wait for my 3rd card
    
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Doesn't the 4850 out perform the 9800gtx in games ?
Stock yes. 4850 also idles at 81C. Not sure what happens when you take into account overclocking. I could not get any OC working on my 4850 (probably have been a driver issue). On my 9800GTX, it came at 675/1100(2.2ghz), im now running 750/1200(2.4ghz).


And these are both priced at $199.99. Ok well, my XFX was $239 with a $40 MIR. So it will be $199 in afew weeks when they send me $40 in the mail .
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benchmark..........


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Heres a nice chart. Also you can pull a wire on the 4850 to make the fan run at 100%(although most wouldn't want this) and drop the temps a lot. It only idles so high because you can't lock the fan speed yet as far as I know.

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The probs w/relying on a chart like that are:
1) It doesn't show MIN FPS on anything, which is just as important if not more than the AVE FPS readings.
2) They only show so many games, and with as different as these architectures are, they each have their individual strengths and weaknesses. This sample size is actually not that big, IWO.
3) They aren't taking overclocking into account at all, and for the people HERE, I assume that should factor into their decision making.
4) Percentage-differences in FPS are neat to look at, and do mean SOMEthing, but not as much as people think.

With regards to 4, I want you to take note of something. There is only ONE CASE, out of all these games, wherein the PLAYABLE settings differ from one card to the other. That is in Lost Planet, wherein the GTX is PLAYABLE at 1680x1050, and the 4750 is NOT. Other than that, either NEITHER card is capable of playable frame rates, or they BOTH are very capable of it.

When you get right down to it, isn't your maximum playable settings what really counts?

For my money, at the SAME PRICE (US$200), considering that the GTX actually WINS in this comparison (in my book, anyway), AND it comes with a cooling solution that would cost you AT LEAST $30 (15% of $200) to replicate on the 4850 (not to mention the time and energy to put it on), and that EVERY 9800GTX is a great overclocker ...

Personally, I think the GTX is the EQUAL or even BETTER value vs. the 4850.

Which one you get should depend on your power supply (whether you have an 8-pin like you need for the GTX), and whether or not your board supports CF or SLI ... and then, only if you think you might GO with multi-gpu.
    
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