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Originally Posted by StormX2 View Post
omg!
its a Quopteron!
I want a Quopty 165!
Well any quad Opteron would be a Quopteron.

..Octeron?
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Here's a great name.


OVERKILL!!!!


Suits it quite nicely


Also, you will have six idle cores 98% of the time. Isn't it wonderful having CPU's so much farther ahead of software?


Should be interesting to run game servers off of, tho, while also playing on them.
Suiting name, yes Anyone having such a setup not for rendering, CAD, etc wont be utilizing its full potential exept for folding of course.

The running games while running game server part, won't that be bottlenecked by your network at some point anyways?

Octeron get my vote
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[quote=blitz6804;4285142]Blameless: The software is just not there yet. Wait a year or two, and this thing will be able to roast games on an open fire.

I disagree.

There are many ways to use such processing power now. It's just that games or typical day-to-day desktop use, aren't those ways; at least not without extreme levels of multitasking.

I certainly think this setup will manage fine in future games, but it won't do any better than a good quad core built recently.

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I, for one, cannot wait to see how well this thing would fold.
Almost certainly less well than the system in my sig (assuming CPU only folding), which, if new parts were used, would cost about half as much.

I'm not bashing the system, it's primary purpose is, as has been mention, a proof of concept. It's certainly got a practical application as well, but I don't think Dracc ever seriously though it would best a quad core setup of the same cost.

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The running games while running game server part, won't that be bottlenecked by your network at some point anyways?
Not any more than it would for a pure server.
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Yeah strangely enough, XP likes to use three cores most of the time. Two on proc 0, and one on proc 1. Goofy... I still haven't tried folding, since Linux would be the only way to use all the cores(They need to get the advanced Windows clients functional, like ASAP) I might try and set up a virtual Linux, as I didn't partition my drive for multiboot(plus I do have those neat hardware virtualization options to mess around with). All my spare drives are pata, so I'm not going to deal with that atm, even though I could put two more drives in from the drive drawer.

As for the network bottleneck... I don't see why you would have a problem. Your network traffic to the server would be local... so as long as you could host a lag free server, you should be able to play and host just as easily. Really not sure about that though, as my experience in this area stems primarily from the Xbox, where there are generally no dedicated servers to speak of. Also, there are two gigabit ethernet ports on board... so if you had dual connections you would be set

Went to meet with the prospective buyer tonight, and she was absent, so I'll have to email her and set up an actual meeting time. The sooner I get this sold, the sooner I can test out Vista, lol. But, it was a productive evening because a guy overheard a conversation I was having about biorobotics and bioelectronics and introduced himself. Turns out he does airbrushing, a rare trade in my little ruralish town, and he was looking to get into biorobotic art(he misunderstood our conversation as we were actually talking about the world's smallest motor which is powered by microorganisms.) I was glad he decided to approach us, because I would love to have some custom case airbushing done on my next build, and also on my 360. He said he wanted to branch out from just cars and motorcycles, so this could be really cool.

EDIT: Me and Blameless simul-posted, so I thought I would add my response now.

I think the comment about the software lagging behind hardware was directed at the low proliferation of multithreaded apps. Yeah, there are a few out there now, but given a few years I think that all major apps will have moved to multithread design. After all, quadcore has become the new defacto setup, and you can bet that we'll be seeing 8 core and up on single chips in the not too distant future(Cell processor doesn't count as it isn't really an 8 core chip)

And you hit it on the proof of concept design. As I said, the retail value of this system is right around 3000USD, but I did my shopping very well and built it for far less. Certainly a 3000USD Intel Quad core is going to outperform this system in most apps, but a few processor benchmarks have placed the performance at the same level as 8 core Xeon rigs.

The entire system is pretty future proof, which is a big part of why I built it. If Skulltrail catches on, and we see more dual processor boards(especially in lower price ranges) in the mainstream market, then software will be forced to catch up to the hardware because of demand. When/if that does happen, this system will continue to perform at adequate levels, even if that doesn't happen for 2-3 years. That is real idea anyway.... having a system last more than 2 years. Granted with ddr3 or fb-dimm ram becoming mainstream as well, we'll start to see ddr2 800 as archaic, but that shouldn't be a huge issue.

I think I mentioned this before, but I built a Tyan dual proc system for a friend of mine that was running modern games 6 years after it was built. He only recently replaced that system... and he did so with a new Tyan(the n3600b board) because he knew it would last. Of course that system is running 2 dual cores... so now he is a little envious of my n6550w build.

I know it might sound like I am being defensive, but I'm really not, I promise! I agree with your comment very much, I just wanted to go further into areas that I have touched on before because you did point out exactly how I feel about the build.
Edited by Dracc - 7/31/08 at 1:36am
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Not any more than it would for a pure server.
Of course, pardon me for not explaining it further, and bad english . An example: My private internet connection does not have the same bandwidth as a server would in a server park. That's what I meant about "network bottleneck" should have written bandwidth bottleneck.
Edited by LIKMARK - 7/31/08 at 10:55am
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Octoron?

dont liek it -.-

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LIKMARK: Your quote is broken; it links back to me instead of to Blameless.
     
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Fixed I have no idea how I managed doing that LOL
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now i want to build a Quopteron machie -.-

though not a QuoptyX2 like he did. It just soudns sexy though
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I may have found my grail! The thread, http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?t=77396, on the 2cpu site should have all the answers to questions/prayers. It seems they are OCing on this board, and there are bunch of people that have comparable systems and know what they are talking about, so that is going to prove invaluable. It is a niche community, but it is exactly the niche I needed. Expect to see some progress on tweaks on OC from here on out!
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