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Originally Posted by DJZeratul View Post
i would reflash that card.
...to the dell firmware 0072.

And place a fan in a PCI slot which throws air at the processor and memory of the card.
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i would reflash that card.
With the same firmware? (there is one newer i just found)

I have some problems flashing.. i use x64 os.. so have to go USB boot or floppy.

Will i lose the data? its 3x1tb RAID 5.
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With the same firmware? (there is one newer i just found)

I have some problems flashing.. i use x64 os.. so have to go USB boot or floppy.

Will i lose the data? its 3x1tb RAID 5.
No, flashing the firmware shouldn't cause you to lose any data. I would flash with the latest version.

For safety, note the disks in your RAID, the stripe size, and all other relevant information before flashing in case it does get rid of your RAID set and you need to rebuild it.

If you do lose it, which you 99.9% likely wont, you want to rebuild the RAID using the exact same disks and stripe size information, and at the end do NOT initialize the raid.

I have reflashed several times without causing the RAID set to go away, so I wouldn't worry. If you are flashing from LSI firmware to DELL firmware, you likely WILL lose the raid set, but wont lose data. DELL to DELL or LSI to LSI the RAID set will continue to function.

ALSO, for anyone reading this: if you are using LSI firmware and have a 5/i, and picked a stripe size unsupported by DELL firmware, and wish to flash from LSI to DELL... you need to re-create the RAID set and you will lose all of your data, so backup first.
    
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I have this cable

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I have this cable

i have never seen that cable before. it looks like the 10 pin is proprietary.

I would say you are probably better off getting regular cables, unless someone can find a pinout for you and you could make your own adapter. it is kinda nice that the power is built into the cable, but... its also messy in the fact that youll need to make your own adapter for it to make it work... I haven't ever seen a 10pin to molex 4pin adapter or anything like that.
    
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i have never seen that cable before. it looks like the 10 pin is proprietary.

I would say you are probably better off getting regular cables, unless someone can find a pinout for you and you could make your own adapter. it is kinda nice that the power is built into the cable, but... its also messy in the fact that youll need to make your own adapter for it to make it work... I haven't ever seen a 10pin to molex 4pin adapter or anything like that.
Ok, i think too, that i ll order other cables.
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Hello, I am new to this forum as a member but I have been using this thread as a reference for the last 2-3 weeks setting up my first RAID card and related array(s).

For a bit of background, I have been using several Windows servers, both 2003 and 2008, 64 bit, either home-built with onbard RAID, or Dell Poweredge with PERC controller. I have also set up ESX server on the Dell Poweredge platform several times. So, while I am far from being an expert, I am not a total noob either.

To make a long story short I ended up getting a new PERC 5i with 256mb memory and BBU off of Ebay at a good price. To avoid potential Intel chipset related SMBus issues I am using a Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6 motherboard. My main purpose for this configuration is to have a basic ESX 3.5 server at home to use for testing and as a learning aid.

So, I started by adding copper heat sinks to the card. I happened to have a Vizo chipset cooling kit handy that had perfect sized sinks for both chips. I glued them on the card using the arctic silver conductive epoxy. I then glued a 40mm fan on top of the main processor sink. I flashed the card to the latest Dell firmware, configured a RAID 5 array with 4 320gb disks and proceeded with a test instal of ESX 3.5 update 3. I was able to choose a single drive attached to the NVidia onboard SATA controller for the install. ESX also could see and use the PERC controller and its associated array perfectly. As an aside, ESX was also able to configure an use the onboard NVidia NICS as well. So, the initial experiment was a huge success. I also tested putting a load on the card by copying over some VMs and running som esimple tests. Just touching the back of the PCB the heat did not seem excessive, maybe 120 degrees farenheit or so max, probably less.

So, then I deceided that this was such a success I wanted to test the card with WIndows Server a bit to 1. test performance on a platform where that would be easier, and 2. to test for the potential of setting up one of these cards in another Windows server for use as either a test or file server. My main goals were to see what performance was like relative to an onboard controller, and to see what the stabilty was like.

So, finally, this brings me to the reason I signed up for the forum. I have two questions: 1. I have tried to go through as much of this thread as possible, but I have not seen a good way to monitor the temperature on the card itself. I have installed the LSI Megaraid utility, but it is only able to give info about the discs themselves. So, my question is, does anone know a good way to measure temps on the card?
2. I used HD Tune and a few other utilities to benchmark performance. I then tried simple data transfers to, and from the card and did the math to see a basic idea of real world performance. I also plan to run some additional tests with VMs under Windows. One thing I noticed was that with large reads from the card (around 100gb of mixed data, small and large files) the system started to become unresponsive. In task manager you could see that something was using a lot of memory. I have 8gb on this particular case and something was chewing up about 2gb of it. I could not identify any processes that were using it though. System is loaded with Windows Server 2003 R2 64 bit and the latest Dell driver. Everything else was fine and performance was decent, if not blazing. No errors in the System Event log. Any ideas why it is chewing up memory reading from the drive?

I guess my next step would be to possibly flash to the LSI firmware and drivers, but since it works so well with ESX (the intended use) I am hesitent. However, I also hate not having conclusive performance tests for Windows with this platform.

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide. Oh, and I apologize for my typing and spelling, I didn't have time to mess with iSpell.
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Originally Posted by bigbillyt View Post
Hello, I am new to this forum as a member but I have been using this thread as a reference for the last 2-3 weeks setting up my first RAID card and related array(s).

For a bit of background, I have been using several Windows servers, both 2003 and 2008, 64 bit, either home-built with onbard RAID, or Dell Poweredge with PERC controller. I have also set up ESX server on the Dell Poweredge platform several times. So, while I am far from being an expert, I am not a total noob either.

To make a long story short I ended up getting a new PERC 5i with 256mb memory and BBU off of Ebay at a good price. To avoid potential Intel chipset related SMBus issues I am using a Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6 motherboard. My main purpose for this configuration is to have a basic ESX 3.5 server at home to use for testing and as a learning aid.

So, I started by adding copper heat sinks to the card. I happened to have a Vizo chipset cooling kit handy that had perfect sized sinks for both chips. I glued them on the card using the arctic silver conductive epoxy. I then glued a 40mm fan on top of the main processor sink. I flashed the card to the latest Dell firmware, configured a RAID 5 array with 4 320gb disks and proceeded with a test instal of ESX 3.5 update 3. I was able to choose a single drive attached to the NVidia onboard SATA controller for the install. ESX also could see and use the PERC controller and its associated array perfectly. As an aside, ESX was also able to configure an use the onboard NVidia NICS as well. So, the initial experiment was a huge success. I also tested putting a load on the card by copying over some VMs and running som esimple tests. Just touching the back of the PCB the heat did not seem excessive, maybe 120 degrees farenheit or so max, probably less.

So, then I deceided that this was such a success I wanted to test the card with WIndows Server a bit to 1. test performance on a platform where that would be easier, and 2. to test for the potential of setting up one of these cards in another Windows server for use as either a test or file server. My main goals were to see what performance was like relative to an onboard controller, and to see what the stabilty was like.

So, finally, this brings me to the reason I signed up for the forum. I have two questions: 1. I have tried to go through as much of this thread as possible, but I have not seen a good way to monitor the temperature on the card itself. I have installed the LSI Megaraid utility, but it is only able to give info about the discs themselves. So, my question is, does anone know a good way to measure temps on the card?
2. I used HD Tune and a few other utilities to benchmark performance. I then tried simple data transfers to, and from the card and did the math to see a basic idea of real world performance. I also plan to run some additional tests with VMs under Windows. One thing I noticed was that with large reads from the card (around 100gb of mixed data, small and large files) the system started to become unresponsive. In task manager you could see that something was using a lot of memory. I have 8gb on this particular case and something was chewing up about 2gb of it. I could not identify any processes that were using it though. System is loaded with Windows Server 2003 R2 64 bit and the latest Dell driver. Everything else was fine and performance was decent, if not blazing. No errors in the System Event log. Any ideas why it is chewing up memory reading from the drive?

I guess my next step would be to possibly flash to the LSI firmware and drivers, but since it works so well with ESX (the intended use) I am hesitent. However, I also hate not having conclusive performance tests for Windows with this platform.

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide. Oh, and I apologize for my typing and spelling, I didn't have time to mess with iSpell.
1. Aside from mounting a thermistor to the heatsink, no. I dont think the chip itself even has a thermistor on it and the DELL/LSI management tools have no way of checking the temperature of the card to my knowledge.

2. I am not sure what would cause the system RAM to load up when reading/writing. Other than maybe an indexing service trying to index at the same time, Im really not sure without more information.
    
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I was looking through this thread, and it seems like I should enable TLDR on WD drives in an array.

Im just wondering if any of you's know if the WD10EACS and WD10EADS drives can be set with a TLDR.

Is the recommend for this card(PERC5) around 7s?
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PERC 6/i with a bigger modded heatsink.

I will be giving away my other modded PERC 6/i heatsink as a freebie: http://www.overclock.net/freebies/48...ml#post5887319




Edited by DuckieHo - 3/27/09 at 8:45am
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