Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Hard Drives & Storage › RAID Controllers and Software › PERC 5/i RAID Card: Tips and Benchmarks
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

PERC 5/i RAID Card: Tips and Benchmarks - Page 388

post #3871 of 7276
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFaznSpEEdSTeR View Post
I thought that was the problem when when I check the BIOS it shows the bootable array as VD 0. Then I tried switching the bootable array to VD 1 and applying the settings then changing it back to VD 0 and still the same error
You also need to check that your motherboard BIOS sees that VD as its first boot drive after changing the setting. Sometimes when changing the VD over, your motherboard ,ight try to default to another boot drive such as a USB device or onboard HD, you just have to put the boot priority of the PERC up in the motherboard BIOS when you do that. If you have the VD with your OS on it set as default in the PERC BIOS, just go to your motherboard BIOS and make sure that VD is listed first in the priority list for boot drives and it should boot as intended.

Basically adding any HD or VD to any add on card can confuse your motherboard BIOS, so you have to check both places to make sure they are defaulting to the proper drive

As for the BBU, I would recommend it just for the safety of your data in case of a power failure. Even with a UPS, it might only keep your system on for a few minutes before dying out, and the BBU can keep your cache data safe for much longer. Granted, the cache data can be written back to your drives pretty quickly, but I am pretty paranoid about my data nowadays. With the cost of a BBU over a decent UPS, it makes sense to just get the BBU. Also, I believe you are correct, the newest LSI firmware disables the force write back functionality that it used to be able to do, and that seriously cripples the card's speed.
Edited by DJZeratul - 1/13/10 at 9:12am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 ASUS P6T Deluxe eVGA GTX 680 6x4GB Kingston Hyper X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Boot R0: 2x256GB Corsair SSD; Scratch R0: 3x750GB Samsung 22x LightScribe DVD+/-DL [SATA] Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Dell 2407FPWx2 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Antec TruPower Q 1KW Custom Fabricated 18" cube (Mountain Mods UFO) Logitech G9 Laser 
Mouse Pad
Faux Woodgrain (My Desk) 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 ASUS P6T Deluxe eVGA GTX 680 6x4GB Kingston Hyper X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Boot R0: 2x256GB Corsair SSD; Scratch R0: 3x750GB Samsung 22x LightScribe DVD+/-DL [SATA] Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Dell 2407FPWx2 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Antec TruPower Q 1KW Custom Fabricated 18" cube (Mountain Mods UFO) Logitech G9 Laser 
Mouse Pad
Faux Woodgrain (My Desk) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3872 of 7276
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFaznSpEEdSTeR View Post
I thought that was the problem when when I check the BIOS it shows the bootable array as VD 0. Then I tried switching the bootable array to VD 1 and applying the settings then changing it back to VD 0 and still the same error
Also, check to be sure that you aren't having an issue of missing MBR. Many times, when you install windows and have multiple drives in the system at time of install, windows will put the master boot record on what it thinks is IDE Drive 0. If that drive is removed, it will look for the MBR and fail to boot IIRC.

If that is the problem, it should be as easy as putting the windows cd/dvd back in and doing the repair option. Vista/7 make it pretty easy now, you can just select auto repair and it will fix any missing MBR issues. The MBR problem can happen regardless of boot order.
post #3873 of 7276
Quote:
Originally Posted by XZed View Post
Well, i can confirm my previous post :

The brackets to use with the PERC card are the ones with the standard PCI reference : PCI 9203.

http://www.keyelco.com/products/specs/spec167.asp

I found some of these on old 3Com NIC, SCSI Raid cards, etc...
Very nice find, thank you. As you posted in your prior comment, I had to bend the bracket for it to work. It doesn't look 'pretty', but it is a server, I don't stare at it too long...sometimes. I'll probably replace the brackets when I next overhaul the server. Might be awhile though.

I also posted more pictures with two RAID 5 cards running side-by-side.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...86#post6365286
post #3874 of 7276
I can get the PCI brackets easily enough, but what screws should I get?
Underground
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 C0 ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution GTX 460 TR3X6G1600C8D 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD1001FALS SAMSUNG SH-S223F 22X DVD MULTI Corsair H50 Fedora 16 KDE x86_64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP w19b Microsoft Comfort Curve Corsair CX600 Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS 
MouseMouse Pad
Razer DeathAdder Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Underground
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 C0 ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution GTX 460 TR3X6G1600C8D 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD1001FALS SAMSUNG SH-S223F 22X DVD MULTI Corsair H50 Fedora 16 KDE x86_64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP w19b Microsoft Comfort Curve Corsair CX600 Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS 
MouseMouse Pad
Razer DeathAdder Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3875 of 7276
Quote:
Originally Posted by error10 View Post
I can get the PCI brackets easily enough, but what screws should I get?
standard case screws should work fine. I used a couple of the extras I had from my case.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 ASUS P6T Deluxe eVGA GTX 680 6x4GB Kingston Hyper X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Boot R0: 2x256GB Corsair SSD; Scratch R0: 3x750GB Samsung 22x LightScribe DVD+/-DL [SATA] Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Dell 2407FPWx2 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Antec TruPower Q 1KW Custom Fabricated 18" cube (Mountain Mods UFO) Logitech G9 Laser 
Mouse Pad
Faux Woodgrain (My Desk) 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 ASUS P6T Deluxe eVGA GTX 680 6x4GB Kingston Hyper X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Boot R0: 2x256GB Corsair SSD; Scratch R0: 3x750GB Samsung 22x LightScribe DVD+/-DL [SATA] Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Dell 2407FPWx2 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Antec TruPower Q 1KW Custom Fabricated 18" cube (Mountain Mods UFO) Logitech G9 Laser 
Mouse Pad
Faux Woodgrain (My Desk) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3876 of 7276
Quote:
Originally Posted by thideras View Post
Very nice find, thank you. As you posted in your prior comment, I had to bend the bracket for it to work. It doesn't look 'pretty', but it is a server, I don't stare at it too long...sometimes. I'll probably replace the brackets when I next overhaul the server. Might be awhile though.

I also posted more pictures with two RAID 5 cards running side-by-side.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...86#post6365286
Thank you too ... Indeed, it was after reading your post/seeing your pictures that i decided to search about this famous PCI bracket !

I thought : "So it's possible to do it without paying a "special" PCI bracket that is a simple and standard one..." .. And as you said :

"Saved me $10 for a PCI bracket"

By the way, here is an information that could serve for others :

I think your bracket is one (PCI reference ) that has ~ 3.23in (~8.2cm) between screw holes instead of 3.362in (8.539cm) as PCI 9203 has.

But i totally agree with you : it really doesn't care to be bent !

Besides this, i'd like to know how did you finally mount the battery (can't see it on pictures) ?

I hesitate sticking mine on the bottom of the case with a simple piece of tape ... (I think/hope that it doesn't has any negative effect on battery ...).

One last : what software do you use to manage the PERC card ?

* Dell OpenManage doesn't support Windows 7 (I know : i could install a Server OS ).

* SAS Storage Manager : seems to lack a lot of features (perhaps i'm wrong as i only could test it quickly).

* Another ones possible (with Windows 7 mainly) ?

Thank you very much.

And thanks again for quoting me on your post with pictures (that are very nice !).

Sincerely,
bubulle_b0x
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5300 Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H 2 Go DDR2-800 CL6 250Go ES.2 - PERC 6/i : 8*1To 7200.12 (RAID6) 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
Optiarc AD-7240S Windows 7 Corsair CX400 Cooler Master Elite 310 
  hide details  
Reply
bubulle_b0x
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5300 Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H 2 Go DDR2-800 CL6 250Go ES.2 - PERC 6/i : 8*1To 7200.12 (RAID6) 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
Optiarc AD-7240S Windows 7 Corsair CX400 Cooler Master Elite 310 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3877 of 7276
I'm on Windows 7 x64 Professional and I use Megaraid Storage Manager (the latest version is 5.00.12 or something like that). I've used the Dell versions too and they are just rebadged MSM version so just get LSI's MSM and it works perfectly.
post #3878 of 7276
Quote:
Originally Posted by GregOP83 View Post
I'm on Windows 7 x64 Professional and I use Megaraid Storage Manager (the latest version is 5.00.12 or something like that). I've used the Dell versions too and they are just rebadged MSM version so just get LSI's MSM and it works perfectly.
Thank you very much for your answer !

Indeed, i also found that "Dell SSM" = "LSI MSM" but :

when i began installing "MSM" (i think too that the last version is 5.00.12 or something like that), it told me that :

"...a major upgrade of the product will be done..."

Don't know why, but i was scared and canceled all ...

While answering you i'm thinking of it :

I canceled because i thought that it was refering to a firmware upgrade but i'm finally thinking that perhaps it only refered to "msm version upgrade" ...

I'll try it tomorrow !

Thank you again

P.S. : you had very poor luck (sas 6/i, bbu cable, drives errors, etc..) ... i wish you more luck for 2010

P.S. 2 : Does MSM need something special to recognize/work with PERC card (I have official Dell fw) ?
Edited by XZed - 1/13/10 at 4:12pm
bubulle_b0x
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5300 Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H 2 Go DDR2-800 CL6 250Go ES.2 - PERC 6/i : 8*1To 7200.12 (RAID6) 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
Optiarc AD-7240S Windows 7 Corsair CX400 Cooler Master Elite 310 
  hide details  
Reply
bubulle_b0x
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5300 Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H 2 Go DDR2-800 CL6 250Go ES.2 - PERC 6/i : 8*1To 7200.12 (RAID6) 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
Optiarc AD-7240S Windows 7 Corsair CX400 Cooler Master Elite 310 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3879 of 7276
Quote:
Originally Posted by XZed View Post
Thank you very much for your answer !

Indeed, i also found that "Dell SSM" = "LSI MSM" but :

when i began installing "MSM" (i think too that the last version is 5.00.12 or something like that), it told me that :

"...a major upgrade of the product will be done..."

Don't know why, but i was scared and canceled all ...

While answering you i'm thinking of it :

I canceled because i thought that it was refering to a firmware upgrade but i'm finally thinking that perhaps it only refered to "msm version upgrade" ...

I'll try it tomorrow !

Thank you again

P.S. : you had very poor luck (sas 6/i, bbu cable, drives errors, etc..) ... i wish you more luck for 2010

P.S. 2 : Does MSM need something special to recognize/work with PERC card (I have official Dell fw) ?
Hah , tell me about it. I ran into some major issues and I'm still hoping that the new BBU/cable fixes the battery issue. Borito is great to work with. It won't upgrade your firmware unless you explicitly tell it to. I have Dells latest firmware on my PERC 6/i and MSM instantly recognizes it so you're good there too.

If there is one thing I know well, its that the more problems you run into the more you learn. I'm a lot better off now because of it
post #3880 of 7276
Quote:
Originally Posted by XZed View Post
Besides this, i'd like to know how did you finally mount the battery (can't see it on pictures) ?

I hesitate sticking mine on the bottom of the case with a simple piece of tape ... (I think/hope that it doesn't has any negative effect on battery ...).

One last : what software do you use to manage the PERC card ?

* Dell OpenManage doesn't support Windows 7 (I know : i could install a Server OS ).

* SAS Storage Manager : seems to lack a lot of features (perhaps i'm wrong as i only could test it quickly).

* Another ones possible (with Windows 7 mainly) ?

Thank you very much.

And thanks again for quoting me on your post with pictures (that are very nice !).

Sincerely,
I did not get the battery mounted, it is just hanging between the cards. Mangement wise, I used the Dell OpenManage software when I was running Windows. I moved to a unix/linux based server a month or so ago and found that you can get the Dell OpenManage software working with it, it is just a little tricky.

No problem in mentioning you, I had completely forgot to post them
Edited by thideras - 1/13/10 at 7:13pm
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: RAID Controllers and Software
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Hard Drives & Storage › RAID Controllers and Software › PERC 5/i RAID Card: Tips and Benchmarks