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Well this is getting really annoying......starting about 2 weeks ago physical drive 3 on my RAID 5 array (5 500GB drive) just randomly says it has been removed (PD removed) and it will either stay in removed status or say that it is inserted and begin rebuild.

I think this is the first time this has happened, but it keeps saying PD 3 removed, failed rebuild, then disk PD 3 inserted, rebuild auto started.

It has literally done this 20 or so times.......it just keeps restarting. The array is working in degraded mode, since I'm listening to music on it right now.

It looks like it finally settled down and it's rebuilding now (at %1, ~2hrs left)

Has anyone experienced this before? I suppose this is the beginning of the end for PD3 (same one everytime), but that sucks considering I haven't had the HDD for more than 1 year.

Might be TLER. What HDDs?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-Li...Error_Recovery
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WD Caviar Black 500GB

EDIT:
That sounds exactly like it.......reading now...thanks Duckie

The specific model is:
WDC WD5000AAKS

So it looks like my drives don't have TLER enabled by default. I see that there is a DOS executable that should allow me to toggle it.....but it looks like WD doesn't recommend Caviars for RAID. If I knew that back when I bought 8 of them I wouldn't have bought them, LOL.
Edited by binormalkilla - 2/1/10 at 11:18pm
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Hi guys, I'm new at the forum, just read some posts at Xsystems and got here.

I'm buying a perc 6 from Borito4. I'm planning to use on my home storage. My plan is to use it for media and for my CCTV cameras storage.

I have some questions for you:

- does this card will work on a x38 maximus formula mobo? I'm using it since I have it already and it has two ethernet ports, I'll have two different neworks at home, one for CCTV and other for media/office.

- what is the better option, build one big array with 8 disks in raid 5 or 6 for everything or build two arrays, one for CCTV and other for media? Does the card support that? Will it struggle when writing in both arrays at the same time? I think that the last option will be better to keep everything split. I'll need 3.5 TB for CCTV, so 4 1.5TB disks or 3 2TB disks will work on raid 5.
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http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20168

Will these cables work for invidual harddrives? (aka straight thru / passover and not Crossover)
It will be OK - but ONLY for SATA drives !!
For SAS drives you will need to cut connector in cable - DON'T cut port in drive !!
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- does this card will work on a x38 maximus formula mobo? I'm using it since I have it already and it has two ethernet ports, I'll have two different neworks at home, one for CCTV and other for media/office.

- what is the better option, build one big array with 8 disks in raid 5 or 6 for everything or build two arrays, one for CCTV and other for media? Does the card support that? Will it struggle when writing in both arrays at the same time? I think that the last option will be better to keep everything split. I'll need 3.5 TB for CCTV, so 4 1.5TB disks or 3 2TB disks will work on raid 5.
1) I believe I had it working in that exact motherboard originally. It will need the SMBus pinmod though.

2) The controller can easily handle two arrays. The bigger question is your data priority.... Does both sets of data (CCTV and media) need redundency? If so, how much so? If both sets of data are really important than a single RAID6 might be better. If one is needs redundency while the other doesn't, than a RAID0 with a RAID5/6 might be better. If both need redundency but one is much more important, than a RAID5 + RAID6 might be better. It just depends.

RAID5 can run and handle 1 HDD failure.
RAID6 can run and handle 2 HDD failure.
The controller supports hot spares (if a drive fails in either RAID5/6, the array will be rebalanced with backup drive automatically.)
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Dang...i updated fw from latest Dell (5.2.2.0072) to latest LSI (7.0.1-0074) and could not boot. I thought that the array had dropped, but when rebooting the Perc could not be found in the boot menu...When powering off and booting again the Perc Bios started, but after that there was an "!" and nothing happened.

Motherboard is ASRock A780GMH/128M and Perc5i works with pinmod. The array is raid-0 on 2xVertex SSD's and Win 7 x64 installed.
Try to flash it back to 7.0.1-0066 from DOS - 7.0.1-0066
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Well my RAID5 array rebuilt overnight. It eventually stopped resetting.
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Hi guys, I'm new at the forum, just read some posts at Xsystems and got here.

I'm buying a perc 6 from Borito4. I'm planning to use on my home storage. My plan is to use it for media and for my CCTV cameras storage.

I have some questions for you:

- does this card will work on a x38 maximus formula mobo? I'm using it since I have it already and it has two ethernet ports, I'll have two different neworks at home, one for CCTV and other for media/office.

- what is the better option, build one big array with 8 disks in raid 5 or 6 for everything or build two arrays, one for CCTV and other for media? Does the card support that? Will it struggle when writing in both arrays at the same time? I think that the last option will be better to keep everything split. I'll need 3.5 TB for CCTV, so 4 1.5TB disks or 3 2TB disks will work on raid 5.
I have the Maximus Formula flashed to a Rampage Formula (physically the same board) and it works fine without any modding. I have it on the very bottom PCI slot.
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two quick questions:

1) When I built my array, the max stripe size my PERC5/i would support was 128k. Then, I updated the firmware to the most recent Dell version, which should have enabled at least 256k. Should I rebuild my array using the larger stripe size?

2) Regarding TLER on WD1001FALS: I believe my drives will work with WDTLER.exe. Is TLER a critical function? Should I go through the trouble of enabling it?

EDIT: I was able to enable TLER on 2 of my 7 drives. The remaining 5 are post-TLER drives. I hope someone comes up with a workaround.
Edited by Kaishi - 2/2/10 at 7:03pm
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1) When I built my array, the max stripe size my PERC5/i would support was 128k. Then, I updated the firmware to the most recent Dell version, which should have enabled at least 256k. Should I rebuild my array using the larger stripe size?
With LSI firmware you can select up to 1024KB stripe size - but you can't go back to DELL fw without recreating array.
Edited by RobiNet - 2/3/10 at 2:13am
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1) I believe I had it working in that exact motherboard originally. It will need the SMBus pinmod though.

2) The controller can easily handle two arrays. The bigger question is your data priority.... Does both sets of data (CCTV and media) need redundency? If so, how much so? If both sets of data are really important than a single RAID6 might be better. If one is needs redundency while the other doesn't, than a RAID0 with a RAID5/6 might be better. If both need redundency but one is much more important, than a RAID5 + RAID6 might be better. It just depends.

RAID5 can run and handle 1 HDD failure.
RAID6 can run and handle 2 HDD failure.
The controller supports hot spares (if a drive fails in either RAID5/6, the array will be rebalanced with backup drive automatically.)
Thanks for your reply.

My CCTV is more important. I'll travel an leave my home being monitored and I don't want to loose everything. I thought about 2 different arrays because I think that most of my access will be media than I don't want to compromise the MTBF of the disks used for CCTV since they will the most critical use.

My other concern was the two different networks. I'll have one network accessing the CCTV disks and I could configure the system in a way that the computers and media centers wouldn't have access to the disks and network of my POE cameras. I think I could do the same with different folders but I didn't want the media centers interfering with the CCTV bandwidth and disk access.

I already have 3 1.5TB seagates on intel raid 5 for media that I'll use on the controller. When I move to my new house I could build a bigger array for media adding one more 1.5TB drive. Build a second array on RAID 5 with 3 drives for the security cameras and leave one hot spare.
The big raid 6 array would be better for bigger vacations when I need more recording time. I'll think about it. I didn't want to do that just because my first option on keeping everything apart, media and CCTV.
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