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Hello,

First sorry for my limited english, and sorry to not have read all the ~ 670 pages of the thread ;-)

I am building a mini home server, with a PC-Q08 case, and 6 x 2 Tb drives. I already have a Perc 5/i with 512 Mb + battery module, but I still miss the mainboard (Mini-ITX) and CPU... I am looking for something fully compatible with the Perc, to run ESXi, but something needing as little power as possible, since the box is going to run 24/24 but most of the time will be "idle"... If some of you have ideas, or maybe examples of consumption of your hardware, I am interested.

Thanks !

For "out of the box" compatibility on consumer hardware you are looking at AMD or NVIDIA chipsets. The Dell Perc 5/i and 6/i cards have an SMBIOS incompatibility with some recent Intel chipsets. This can, however, be rectified by using the SMBIOS pin mod as outlined in the first post of this thread.

The PC-Q08 is a fantastic case, I have a similar PC-Q25 and is serving me well. Although I recently migrated into a larger case for more drives, I was running

an Intel i5 3570 + Intel DH77DF + 8GB ram with a dell perc 6i. Two cores disabled, underclocked CPU, underclocked GPU with 6 drives and idle consumption sat around 30W,~35W. When the drives were actively writing and the server performing light duties, this went up to 65~75W.
Edited by mitchtaydev - 5/25/13 at 4:09am
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post #6532 of 7150
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Originally Posted by mitchtaydev View Post

The Dell Perc 5/i and 6/i cards have an SMBIOS incompatibility with all recent Intel chipsets.

I'm sorry but your statement is incorrect. I have two x58-based intel systems here and they both work with the Perc 5/i, out of the box, with no mods, no errors and work completely perfectly normal with no issues.

I don't know about any other intel systems, however.
Edited by kithylin - 5/24/13 at 9:42am
post #6533 of 7150
Hello,

@ mitch : thank you, this is exactly the answer I was looking for. The CPU is a bit too expensive, but it gives a good idea wink.gif.

@kithylin : can you post the exact references of the mainboards you are using please ? And its consumption at idle if possible ?

Thanks,
post #6534 of 7150
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I'm sorry but your statement is incorrect. I have two x58-based intel systems here and they both work with the Perc 5/i, out of the box, with no mods, no errors and work completely perfectly normal with no issues.

I don't know about any other intel systems, however.
Okay wasn't aware of that, I have edited the post for posterity,

I have only tested the perc 6i on 1155 systems, various chipsets and they all needed the pin mod. Though interestingly I do have 1 perc (of 3) that does not require it. I am unsure what its distinguishing characteristic is.
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Out of curiosity,

If I pull an array out but keep the drives in tact and not have any data changed on them.

Is it possible to re-use those two arrays later, on a different controller?

So, Controller 1 has two connectors that hook into array 1. I want to disconnect that one and use it on a different controller (port two), and then hook up two other hard drives to port 1 and create a new raid.

I assume all information is stored on the disk so I could re-use them if needed. But I just want to verify. I hvae everything backed up too, so not a complete loss if it does happen, but definitely easier to be pro-active versus retro-active.
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Out of curiosity,

If I pull an array out but keep the drives in tact and not have any data changed on them.

Is it possible to re-use those two arrays later, on a different controller?

So, Controller 1 has two connectors that hook into array 1. I want to disconnect that one and use it on a different controller (port two), and then hook up two other hard drives to port 1 and create a new raid.

I assume all information is stored on the disk so I could re-use them if needed. But I just want to verify. I hvae everything backed up too, so not a complete loss if it does happen, but definitely easier to be pro-active versus retro-active.
Yes that will work. The hdds you move will most likelt show up in a "foreign configuration" and you will have to import that configuration before you are able to see or use the exsisting vds.
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Hello,

@ mitch : thank you, this is exactly the answer I was looking for. The CPU is a bit too expensive, but it gives a good idea wink.gif.

@kithylin : can you post the exact references of the mainboards you are using please ? And its consumption at idle if possible ?

Thanks,

I do not know about consumption but they are traditionally desktop motherboards. One is a "general usage" desktop board. The other is not something you would want to use for a HTPC / media center machine, it's an "extreme overclocking" motherboard.

General-Usage Motherboard: EVGA x58 SLI3 (Model #: 131-GT-E767) <=- The computer I am typing this message on is using a PERC 5/i in it, and is based on this motherboard, with an Intel I7-950. It's running 8 x 500 GB SATA-II drives in RAID-5 and has been running for over 3 months with zero issues.

Extreme Overclocking board: EVGA x58 CLASSIFIED 3-WAY-SLI (Model #: 141-BL-E760) <=- My high-end gaming computer with a 4.6 Ghz i7-980x Extreme Edition uses a PERC 5/i based off of this motherboard. It too has been running since fall 2012 with zero issues with the PERC in it. It's even survived a couple disk failures, redundancy does work fine.

Both of these motherboards I know personally work 100% stable, "out of the box" with the Dell PERC 5/i in any pci-express slot. No pin mods. No bios mods. Nothing modified in any way, stick it in, go.

That aside, you can also look at: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/index.html And this page has several "Sockets" in blue text there. If you left-click on LGA-1366, it will show you only xeon families that fit in LGA-1366. You can then look in to each xeon family (Again clicking LGA 1366 at the top of the next page if necessary) and look through the list. You could then copy-paste each xeon model # in to ebay and look for them. In general you want to look for "Multiprocessing -> Uniprocessor" on the cpu's indiviual page. Most Uniprocessor xeons will work in most x58 motherboards. Check the manufacturer's website for compatibility before building. Most x58 motherboards have several xeons listed in Compatible CPU's.

The reason I suggest this, is if you do enough time searching, you can find some xeons for x58 that are between $25 and $40 on ebay. Intel made some that are dual core with hyper-threading + Turbo Boost, and those would be sufficient for HTPC / Media Center and are usually rather cheapish if you buy used today. Sometimes you can find x58 motherboards for < $100, around the $50-$60 mark if you hunt for them. If you spend time and are diligent you could build a decent HTPC / media center / file server based on x58 and a cheap xeon and board + cpu for about $100 - $175.

I have also tested this PERC 5/i personally in a "Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P" x58 (LGA-1366) motherboard, with a low-power 2.00 Ghz 6-core 12-thread Westmere-core Xeon, and it ran 100% perfect out-of-box with no mods.

So while I have not tested -ALL- x58 motherboards, so far the PERC 5/i has worked perfectly in 3 so far for me.
Edited by kithylin - 5/25/13 at 9:23pm
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Thank you kithylin.

Xeon was an interesting solution, but I cannot manage to find any mini ITX compatible mainboard... Shame, was a damned good idea wink.gif
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Could anyone tell me what cable is needed for these cards? Unfortunately, the bbu I got, seems to have the wrong cable, or, the advertisement is incorrect.

Could anyone tell me what cable they ordered or where they obtained it from?
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Could anyone tell me what cable is needed for these cards? Unfortunately, the bbu I got, seems to have the wrong cable, or, the advertisement is incorrect.

You bought wrong battery - it's for PERC 5/E not for PERC 5/i, PERC 6/i.

The correct code for battery for PERc 5/i, 6/i is JC881.
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