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Poll Results: Would you switch?

 
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I was unaware that SuperPi1.5XS was available for Linux? I don't believe it is. Considering there are many Pi programs that use more efficient algorithms than SuperPi1.5XS, I don't doubt you score better.
Actually the algorithm used for SuperPi was ported TO Windows, not the other way around. Both the Windows and Linux/MAC version of the software uses the SAME algorithm.

You can see discussions about Linux SuperPi with a simple Google search. Here is one example:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=405925
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Actually the algorithm used for SuperPi was ported TO Windows, not the other way around. Both the Windows and Linux/MAC version of the software uses the SAME algorithm.

You can see discussions about Linux SuperPi with a simple Google search. Here is one example:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=405925
Those are not the same programs. I didn't see anything about both the Windows and Linux version using the same solving algorithm. I ran calculate 1M digits of pi on my computer with PiFast in under a second, so whats your point? Should I switch to linux because I can calculate Pi faster?
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I won't use Linux as my primary OS until I can use Adobe Fireworks on it as well as iTunes. I do however have Ubuntu folding all day long in VMware in Vista.
Fair enough.

It's hard for open-source people to get the big proprietary software companies (Apple and Adobe in this case) to port their code over. And we must wait on them to port it since it is obvious they won't open the code for others to do it.

Since Apple's OS X is nothing but Unix, the iTunes cross-over to Linux would actually be simpler than the already existent port to Windows.

All that said, you can run iTunes in WINE just fine Relatively simple programs like iTunes should run without a hitch in WINE. I actually prefer to use WINE for my Boinc SETI@HOME crunching. Never had a single crash or glitch, etc.

When you use open-source OS's, there is going to be a trade-off. I am willing to accept that trade-off. I get security, no viruses or malware, FREE software, better OS efficiency, speed, etc. In return I am willing to give up native versions of a few things like games and iTunes. Most of the time I find that there are either native Linux alternatives or that I can run the apps in WINE.

The only software that I personally use that I can't use on Linux is Netflix's streaming movies. If you go to the Netflix forums, you will see tons of Linux fanboys like myself *****ing about their lack of Linux (and Mac) support. Now that Netflix is in the bed with M$ (the xbox 360 is offering Netflix), I am doubtful we will ever see them support Mac or Linux.

If you or anyone else don't want to make the trade-off, that's fine. Everyone should have choice (at least you know you have a choice since Linux and open-source is around).
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Fair enough.

It's hard for open-source people to get the big proprietary software companies (Apple and Adobe in this case) to port their code over. And we must wait on them to port it since it is obvious they won't open the code for others to do it.

Since Apple's OS X is nothing but Unix, the iTunes cross-over to Linux would actually be simpler than the already existent port to Windows.

All that said, you can run iTunes in WINE just fine Relatively simple programs like iTunes should run without a hitch in WINE. I actually prefer to use WINE for my Boinc SETI@HOME crunching. Never had a single crash or glitch, etc.

When you use open-source OS's, there is going to be a trade-off. I am willing to accept that trade-off. I get security, no viruses or malware, FREE software, better OS efficiency, speed, etc. In return I am willing to give up native versions of a few things like games and iTunes. Most of the time I find that there are either native Linux alternatives or that I can run the apps in WINE.

The only software that I personally use that I can't use on Linux is Netflix's streaming movies. If you go to the Netflix forums, you will see tons of Linux fanboys like myself *****ing about their lack of Linux (and Mac) support. Now that Netflix is in the bed with M$ (the xbox 360 is offering Netflix), I am doubtful we will ever see them support Mac or Linux.

If you or anyone else don't want to make the trade-off, that's fine. Everyone should have choice (at least you know you have a choice since Linux and open-source is around).
Although I can accept the advantage Linux has in security (I don't think it is inherent however) and well as cost (free), I do not agree that Linux is faster. In my experience as well as the experience of others that have posted in this thread (including YouTube videos of boot time and application launch) Windows XP and Windows Vista are faster than Linux.

Even though Linux is directly free, there are large indirect costs to using it. For starters I gurantee that you will use more time setting up and configuring Linux and you will lose productivity from the software (OO does not compete with MS Office on any level of professional productivity).

I also think that Windows XP and Windows Vista are more stable and reliable than Linux, as has been demonstrated in this thread.
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It is also important to note that a distribution like Ubuntu is very bloated, and thus may not give the mos accurate representation of "linux" boot speed. The massive variety between distributions means that each can only be taken as representative of itself, not the broader group of general "linux". All something needs to be yechnically called linux is the kernel - be that the firmware currently running in my router or the tricked out install of Arch on my laptop, they are both linux (though anybody can see that they are radically different).
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It is also important to note that a distribution like Ubuntu is very bloated, and thus may not give the mos accurate representation of "linux" boot speed. The massive variety between distributions means that each can only be taken as representative of itself, not the broader group of general "linux". All something needs to be yechnically called linux is the kernel - be that the firmware currently running in my router or the tricked out install of Arch on my laptop, they are both linux (though anybody can see that they are radically different).
Well you cannot use Ubuntu as the feature rich, easy to use, all in one distribution as an arguement to use Linux and then use another distribution that features faster boot times and better performance to argue its speed.

If you are going say Linux is as easy to use, just as feature rich, and faster than Windows you have to do it using a distribution that features all of that, not several that each have a few.
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Well you cannot use Ubuntu as the feature rich, easy to use, all in one distribution as an arguement to use Linux and then use another distribution that features faster boot times and better performance to argue its speed.

If you are going say Linux is as easy to use, just as feature rich, and faster than Windows you have to do it using a distribution that features all of that, not several that each have a few.
I agree completely. I just wanted to point out that not all distros are created equal.
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It is also important to note that a distribution like Ubuntu is very bloated, and thus may not give the mos accurate representation of "linux" boot speed. The massive variety between distributions means that each can only be taken as representative of itself, not the broader group of general "linux". All something needs to be yechnically called linux is the kernel - be that the firmware currently running in my router or the tricked out install of Arch on my laptop, they are both linux (though anybody can see that they are radically different).
but you could remove any unused Ubuntu installed features to reduce boot speed, no?
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but you could remove any unused Ubuntu installed features to reduce boot speed, no?
You'd want to disable some of the services it starts at boot time.
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but you could remove any unused Ubuntu installed features to reduce boot speed, no?
Indeed you could - such is the beauty of the Linux model. I can run Ubuntu stock with support for darned near everything - or I could stip it down to the bare essentials needed for my specific system (that includes heavy tweaking of the kernel, something which is not so easily done with Windows).
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