Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Memory › 4gb over kill?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

4gb over kill?

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
i have 2gb and i see there alot of computers in here with 4gb to 8gb.
isnt that just over kill i never use up 50% of my 2gb when running anything?
post #2 of 30
i think vista is the only thing that recognizes anything over 3G. i think. imo, 4g is a waste of money, but it depends on what u r doing. for games its probably a waste, editing and stuff its probably a good idea.
post #3 of 30
Not running Vista I would think adding to more gig to Vista is about the same as going from 1gig to 2 in XP..big gain
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-6700K @4.6 @ 1.344 ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ALPHA LGA 1151 Intel... EVGA GeForce GTX 1080Ti FE Hybrid  Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3200  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate Constellation ES.3 2TB  SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB SSD  LG CD/DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 6X DVD+RW 8X  Swiftech H20-220 Elite Series Liquid Cooling 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit  ASUS PG279Q ROG SWIFT 27" BenQ G2400W (for monitoring systems)  Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum RGB Mechanical  
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA SuperNOVA 220-P2-0750-X1 750W  Cooler Master Storm Stryker  Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum RGB  Logitech X540 5.1 
AudioOtherOtherOther
HyperX Cloud Revolver Reeven SIX EYES II fan speed controller, 6 chan... Aquacomputer Aquabox Professional 5.25" Bay Res... Logitech G13 Game Pad 
OtherOtherOther
Logitech G29 Individually Sleeved Cable Set for EVGA -Red Custom water cool chiller! 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-6700K @4.6 @ 1.344 ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ALPHA LGA 1151 Intel... EVGA GeForce GTX 1080Ti FE Hybrid  Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3200  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate Constellation ES.3 2TB  SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB SSD  LG CD/DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 6X DVD+RW 8X  Swiftech H20-220 Elite Series Liquid Cooling 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit  ASUS PG279Q ROG SWIFT 27" BenQ G2400W (for monitoring systems)  Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum RGB Mechanical  
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA SuperNOVA 220-P2-0750-X1 750W  Cooler Master Storm Stryker  Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum RGB  Logitech X540 5.1 
AudioOtherOtherOther
HyperX Cloud Revolver Reeven SIX EYES II fan speed controller, 6 chan... Aquacomputer Aquabox Professional 5.25" Bay Res... Logitech G13 Game Pad 
OtherOtherOther
Logitech G29 Individually Sleeved Cable Set for EVGA -Red Custom water cool chiller! 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 30
I see an improvment when doing multiple things at once. You also need a 64bit os to recognize it without the use of 'PAE' (I think thats the name). It really is not that expensive but i wouldnt say you need to upgrade unless you want to. I did becuase it was only 80 bucks.
Darkness
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4690k asus z97-ar gigabyte 980 ti g1 gaming G-Skill Ripjaw 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
WD Black Samsung EVO 840 Windows 8 Pro 64Bit Ultrasharp 27" 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP W2338H 23" Black Widow Ultimate Corsair HK1000W Corsair 600T SE 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Zowie EC2 Zowie (Pure exellence) dt880 sound blaster recon3d 
Audio
swan m10 
  hide details  
Reply
Darkness
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4690k asus z97-ar gigabyte 980 ti g1 gaming G-Skill Ripjaw 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
WD Black Samsung EVO 840 Windows 8 Pro 64Bit Ultrasharp 27" 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP W2338H 23" Black Widow Ultimate Corsair HK1000W Corsair 600T SE 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Zowie EC2 Zowie (Pure exellence) dt880 sound blaster recon3d 
Audio
swan m10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by horror View Post
i think vista is the only thing that recognizes anything over 3G. i think. imo, 4g is a waste of money, but it depends on what u r doing. for games its probably a waste, editing and stuff its probably a good idea.
Actually, 32-bit systems can only recognize 3.2Gb of RAM. It's in the memory mapping architecture. For an operating system to see the full 4GB it needs to be a 64-bit OS.

Whether it's XP or Vista doesn't matter, just so long as it's a 64-bit OS.

Vista Ultimate takes advantage of having a lot of RAM by using superfetch. That learns what programs you use and loads them into RAM so when you click on them they open really fast.

I have 4GB and love it.
Vegeta 2.0
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 @ 3.2GHz (400 x 8 @ 1.4v) «Lapped» DFI Lan Party UT P35 T2R BFG 8800GTS 640MB (625/1950/1400) 4GB (2 x 2GB) OCZ Platinum 1066MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate 320GB and 160GB || Western Digital 250GB DVD-RW Vista Ultimate x64 2 x 19" Widescreens (2880x900) 
KeyboardPowerCase
Eclipse II Antec Earthwatts 500W Thermaltake Armor 
  hide details  
Reply
Vegeta 2.0
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 @ 3.2GHz (400 x 8 @ 1.4v) «Lapped» DFI Lan Party UT P35 T2R BFG 8800GTS 640MB (625/1950/1400) 4GB (2 x 2GB) OCZ Platinum 1066MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate 320GB and 160GB || Western Digital 250GB DVD-RW Vista Ultimate x64 2 x 19" Widescreens (2880x900) 
KeyboardPowerCase
Eclipse II Antec Earthwatts 500W Thermaltake Armor 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 30
It's not overkill, today 16GB is over-kill...
Quote:
Originally Posted by se7en56 View Post
Actually, 32-bit systems can only recognize 3.2Gb of RAM. It's in the memory mapping architecture. For an operating system to see the full 4GB it needs to be a 64-bit OS.

Whether it's XP or Vista doesn't matter, just so long as it's a 64-bit OS.

Vista Ultimate takes advantage of having a lot of RAM by using superfetch. That learns what programs you use and loads them into RAM so when you click on them they open really fast.

I have 4GB and love it.
Actually you got it wrong...32-bit can work with 4096MB in total... It's just that Windows and the graphic card takes up some of it...
The PAE can be changed to 36-bit too but it's more instable...
Edited by Ecchi-BANZAII!!! - 7/31/08 at 6:13am
Uhh.. Thing
(17 items)
 
TERA
(22 items)
 
MEGA
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4690K Z97-PRO GAMER GigaByte GTX970 G1 Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 830 Pro Samsung 850 EVO Noctua D15 Windows 10 x64 Enterprise 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE QPAD MK-50 EVGA 750W G2 Frractal Design R5 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 IKEA Galant SupremeFX -> Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
Other
Logitech G27 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5GHz 1.425v with HT enabled ASUS P8Z77-V Gigabyte GTX670 OC Gigabyte GTX670 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Vengeanve LP White 16GB Corsair Force GT 120GB WD RED SOHO 3TB WD RED SOHO 3TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
WD BLACK 4TB Seagate 5900 LP 2TB XSPC Raystorm D5 XSPC RX480 w/ GT AP-13 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 w/ GT AP-15 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 DELL U3011 Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX1000W Corsair 900D Logitech G500 SARGAS 460 
AudioAudio
Denon AVR-2313 Dali Zensor 7, 5, Vocal 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i5 3570k 4.2GHz ASUS P8Z77-i DELUXE Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB Samsung 830 256GB 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair H100 Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 ASUS V248QE Corsair HX650W 
CaseMouse PadAudioAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Funk Surface 1030 Realtek 898 Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver 
Audio
Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
  hide details  
Reply
Uhh.. Thing
(17 items)
 
TERA
(22 items)
 
MEGA
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4690K Z97-PRO GAMER GigaByte GTX970 G1 Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 830 Pro Samsung 850 EVO Noctua D15 Windows 10 x64 Enterprise 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE QPAD MK-50 EVGA 750W G2 Frractal Design R5 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 IKEA Galant SupremeFX -> Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
Other
Logitech G27 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5GHz 1.425v with HT enabled ASUS P8Z77-V Gigabyte GTX670 OC Gigabyte GTX670 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Vengeanve LP White 16GB Corsair Force GT 120GB WD RED SOHO 3TB WD RED SOHO 3TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
WD BLACK 4TB Seagate 5900 LP 2TB XSPC Raystorm D5 XSPC RX480 w/ GT AP-13 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 w/ GT AP-15 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 DELL U3011 Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX1000W Corsair 900D Logitech G500 SARGAS 460 
AudioAudio
Denon AVR-2313 Dali Zensor 7, 5, Vocal 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i5 3570k 4.2GHz ASUS P8Z77-i DELUXE Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB Samsung 830 256GB 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair H100 Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 ASUS V248QE Corsair HX650W 
CaseMouse PadAudioAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Funk Surface 1030 Realtek 898 Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver 
Audio
Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by horror View Post
i think vista is the only thing that recognizes anything over 3G. i think. imo, 4g is a waste of money, but it depends on what u r doing. for games its probably a waste, editing and stuff its probably a good idea.
Any 64-bit Operating system can recognize more than 3GB or ram. XP x64, vista x64, etc.....
post #8 of 30
I was creating a slipstream Vista disk last night..... my 4GB RAM usage was at 100% for 5 mins.
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecchi-BANZAII!!! View Post
It's not overkill, today 16GB is over-kill...

Actually you got it wrong...32-bit can work with 4096MB in total... It's just that Windows and the graphic card takes up some of it...
The PAE can be changed to 36-bit too but it's more instable...
Erm no

32bit can only use 3.2gb of RAM, its the way it is coded. 32 bit coding is a mathmatical limit not an OS limit
Its can only see 3.2gb total RAM inc Video Card

For me, Windows uses 2.640gb and thats all it can see. If I got a 1gb stick to add to it Windows could not see 200mb or so of it nor use it.

However, this is a Windows only feature
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-4850HQ  Yes GT 750M 16GB Corsair 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
512GB SSD 1TB Buffalo Drivestation OSX Mavericks 15" 2880 x 1800 IPS 
MouseOther
Magic Mouse Mobee Magic Charger 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-4850HQ  Yes GT 750M 16GB Corsair 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
512GB SSD 1TB Buffalo Drivestation OSX Mavericks 15" 2880 x 1800 IPS 
MouseOther
Magic Mouse Mobee Magic Charger 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 30
Then how do you explain that people with 128MB graphic cards can see 3.5 GB of RAM
Uhh.. Thing
(17 items)
 
TERA
(22 items)
 
MEGA
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4690K Z97-PRO GAMER GigaByte GTX970 G1 Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 830 Pro Samsung 850 EVO Noctua D15 Windows 10 x64 Enterprise 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE QPAD MK-50 EVGA 750W G2 Frractal Design R5 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 IKEA Galant SupremeFX -> Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
Other
Logitech G27 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5GHz 1.425v with HT enabled ASUS P8Z77-V Gigabyte GTX670 OC Gigabyte GTX670 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Vengeanve LP White 16GB Corsair Force GT 120GB WD RED SOHO 3TB WD RED SOHO 3TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
WD BLACK 4TB Seagate 5900 LP 2TB XSPC Raystorm D5 XSPC RX480 w/ GT AP-13 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 w/ GT AP-15 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 DELL U3011 Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX1000W Corsair 900D Logitech G500 SARGAS 460 
AudioAudio
Denon AVR-2313 Dali Zensor 7, 5, Vocal 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i5 3570k 4.2GHz ASUS P8Z77-i DELUXE Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB Samsung 830 256GB 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair H100 Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 ASUS V248QE Corsair HX650W 
CaseMouse PadAudioAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Funk Surface 1030 Realtek 898 Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver 
Audio
Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
  hide details  
Reply
Uhh.. Thing
(17 items)
 
TERA
(22 items)
 
MEGA
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4690K Z97-PRO GAMER GigaByte GTX970 G1 Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 830 Pro Samsung 850 EVO Noctua D15 Windows 10 x64 Enterprise 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE QPAD MK-50 EVGA 750W G2 Frractal Design R5 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 IKEA Galant SupremeFX -> Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
Other
Logitech G27 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5GHz 1.425v with HT enabled ASUS P8Z77-V Gigabyte GTX670 OC Gigabyte GTX670 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Vengeanve LP White 16GB Corsair Force GT 120GB WD RED SOHO 3TB WD RED SOHO 3TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
WD BLACK 4TB Seagate 5900 LP 2TB XSPC Raystorm D5 XSPC RX480 w/ GT AP-13 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 w/ GT AP-15 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 DELL U3011 Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX1000W Corsair 900D Logitech G500 SARGAS 460 
AudioAudio
Denon AVR-2313 Dali Zensor 7, 5, Vocal 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i5 3570k 4.2GHz ASUS P8Z77-i DELUXE Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB Samsung 830 256GB 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair H100 Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 ASUS V248QE Corsair HX650W 
CaseMouse PadAudioAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Funk Surface 1030 Realtek 898 Pioneer VSX-D711-S 5.1 receiver 
Audio
Dali Zensor 1+SUB E-12F 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Memory
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Memory › 4gb over kill?