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Originally Posted by Uhfgood View Post

gr8sho - I haven't actually cleared out my cmos myself. Do you mean actually messing with jumpers on board or just resetting the bios settings to their defaults?
I thought it mentioned something about clearing it when I first started up after the bios had been updated.
Also it doesn't appear to give me this error when I simply shut down (meaning the power strip everything is plugged into including an external hard drive, is still on.)
It only does this after I switch off the power strip. Also an odd note about when I upgraded to windows 7, my keyboard lights, the light in my mouse (being an optical mouse) remain lit when the computer is shut down. So there's definitely some weird stuff going on.
I'm going to try a normal shut down, and instead of hitting the power strip button, I'm going to turn off the external hard drive as well to see if that does anything as far as windows startup problems.
BTW, I tried letting windows fix the "start up errors" -- but it said it couldn't and just promptly shut down my computer. The nice thing is if I tell it to go ahead and start windows normally, it does.

you can shut down, pull the cmos battery, pull the power plug to the power supply and wait a few min and that should clear it as well. also i see your shutting down using a power strip. i do not recommend doing this. always use the windows shutdown in the start menu. if you are simply cutting the power it will mess up your stuff on the hard drive and cause it to corrupt.

if stuff is staying on then you will have to go to the control pannel and power options and make sure it is set then when you push the power button it is actuly shutting down, and not going into hibernate, or sleep mode. if thins are staying on it sounds like thats what it is doing.
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I don't actually hit the power strip button until it has shut down. As far as I know it does shut down with the power button.

I took to switching the power strip off when I noticed a lot of lights were still on, so as to make sure it's completely dark in my room, I started hitting the PS button, after I had (properly) shut down.

What I'm saying is, it was giving me this error when I would shut down normally, then after making sure nothing was still on (except afore mentioned keyboard + mouse lights) I would hit the power strip button. This morning it started up normally though.

If it's working why would I want to clear the cmos?
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If it's working why would I want to clear the cmos?

Peace of mind knowing you followed the procedure properly after updating the BIOS. It's one less thing to worry about. And over time if you move into newer hardware like SSDs, it's important to make sure ACPI starts fresh whenever updating thing like BIOS or firmware of components.
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i jumped ship to a 960T Zosma 3.0GHz. i have it at 4.0ghz with only 1.375v. a lot of people have had them unlock to 5 and 6 core cpu's. i jumped into my sig rig and have the m2n-sli in the wife's computer now running the 940@3.4ghz 1.350v. sense i went to my new rig i have noticed a lot of difference. everything seems to be way faster. i don't know if it is the ddr3-1366 instead of ddr2 or what, but man it has been a massive difference, even my games play way better...

Hi Fryer, Long time.

Good to see your upgrade was a big step.

OTOH, my step was a bit smaller moving from the M2N32 to the C5F in terms of overall performance, at least as measured by feel and WEI. But a step it is just the same. Whereas I had virtually maxed out performance of my old system, there is still some headroom on the C5F because I intend to put the 965 under water and hopefully the FSB will make it to 3000MHz or beyond. Speculation now, but hopefully soon to be a reality. And of course if a good 8 core module becomes a reality, there should be another step, but exploitation of 8 CPUs might be tough to see in the near term from what I hear.
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That's really good to know. Hopefully you will be able to keep coaching people too.
When you had the Vcore jacked up to 1.45V, do you recall how much voltage droop you observed?
About the higher 900 series CPUs, I see no reason they wouldn't work any differently than the 965.
I hope that Piledriver will deliver a good boost over Phenom II X6. Otherwise my next chip might be a good 6-core Zosma.

Ha... yeah, would be nice but I only help with the bit I know. Far more users know this stuff better than I do.

And no I don't. It's been a while since I had my PC folding on the 940. Also something interesting, the other day when I checked Everest regarding my voltages after chatting with you it actually showed my CPU voltage was 1.41v when I'm pretty sure I have it manually set to 1.35v. BIOS usually shows my voltage .01-.02 higher the more it is overclocked. Usually not starting until 1.4v.

If I could locate a 980 I'd give it a shot. 3.6ghz stock would be pretty sweet.
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If I could locate a 980 I'd give it a shot. 3.6ghz stock would be pretty sweet.

On my M2N32, the way VRM dealt with Vcore was to set the actual voltage that the sensors are probed by to a +30mV offset. This is presumably to compensates for Vdroop under full load. I happened to witness this by accident just because I had the right monitors running when I ran some stress test and happened to glance over at Vcore.

I have doubts about the 980 being that much better than the 965. If you really think your M2N can handle it, just increase the multiplier and see what happens. From your sig, your Dark Knight should be able to keep the CPU at reasonable temps even at 3.9GHz. You might even be able to hit 4.0GHz for all I know. If you have the ability on that board, and are willing to possibly sacrifice a little top-end speed, increase the base CPU frequency to 250 and back the CPU multi and HT multi down to 4X. Make sure you can feed the NB enough volts. Again, my knowledge of the M2N is limited and I don't know you have these knobs, but clearly and easily achievable on the M2N32. That's why the perceived speed difference was more subtle when I stepped up to the Crosshair V.
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On my M2N32, the way VRM dealt with Vcore was to set the actual voltage that the sensors are probed by to a +30mV offset. This is presumably to compensates for Vdroop under full load. I happened to witness this by accident just because I had the right monitors running when I ran some stress test and happened to glance over at Vcore.
I have doubts about the 980 being that much better than the 965. If you really think your M2N can handle it, just increase the multiplier and see what happens. From your sig, your Dark Knight should be able to keep the CPU at reasonable temps even at 3.9GHz. You might even be able to hit 4.0GHz for all I know. If you have the ability on that board, and are willing to possibly sacrifice a little top-end speed, increase the base CPU frequency to 250 and back the CPU multi and HT multi down to 4X. Make sure you can feed the NB enough volts. Again, my knowledge of the M2N is limited and I don't know you have these knobs, but clearly and easily achievable on the M2N32. That's why the perceived speed difference was more subtle when I stepped up to the Crosshair V.

DK does a great job cooling my CPU and the ambients are always nice and chilly so that's not a problem. However my board is. It has never handled overclocking very well. I could never successfully get 3.7ghz stable on my old 940. I came close with 3.6ghz but was pushing 1.5v. I haven't messed with the 965 much. Just attempted a quick 3.6ghz run on stock voltage and it didn't like it so I stopped caring. Mind you i was able to run my 940 at 3.3ghz stock voltage stable, but not F@H stable. To get 3.4ghz truly F@H stable I had to push 1.45v into my 940 and this was AFTER I discovered it didn't like frequency OC's. I originally had it overclocked to 220 but had to back it down to stock with just multi OC's to get it to run f@H stable.

I think the limit is lack of NB control. I can only tweak one setting with NB voltages and I don't think it is a true NB voltage. But I read something in another topic the other day about NB voltages and speeds, so I may test something out as an experiment later tomorrow.
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Would I be able to use this - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727 -- or is it too iffy (iffy meaning that it won't work and I'd have to send it back?)

BTW - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103935 -- It is an oem item.

I'm thinking maybe I should try the 965.
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well the board will handle a PH II cpu and up to a 140 watt cpu so Id say its a resonbale guess it will handle the 2 cpu's your looking at but as I say its a guess as the cpu's arint on the list but that list was made before they had thos cpu's
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Would I be able to use this - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727 -- or is it too iffy (iffy meaning that it won't work and I'd have to send it back?)
BTW - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103935 -- It is an oem item.
I'm thinking maybe I should try the 965.

Both those CPUs should work just fine. The only difference between them, except that you will get no cooler with the OEM version, is their binning.
You should know from reading the first page of this thread you will have to manually set the correct frequency using software when system has booted.
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