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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

My b97 showed up today ($65 shipped for a locked multi 955 cuz I'm cheap) looking forward to playing with my new toy tomorrow.
USB keyboard functions perfect, on first boot with no tweaks its running at 3.2ghz. Woohoo

Downside is I'm only seeing two cores. Any ideas?

Hwmonitor and cpuz don't want to run

Though i had several issues with hwmonitor before anyways.

Core Temp Shows phenom ii x2 597

system info shows x4 b97 and device manager shows 4 cores

task manager shows 2 cores as well

Edit:

A couple of resets later and core temp shows 4 cores, nvidia control panel shows 4 cores, task manager shows four cores.

the multiplier seems unlocked in BIOS, but it defaults to the lowest pstate when i set over 16, and going any higher in nvtools doesnt do anything. Bummer, thought i lucked out.
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 9/5/12 at 3:13pm
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post #10582 of 11305
Thanks.

No errors.

Typing on home PC now - so far no freeze though probably just a matter of time.

Hmm.

Core Temp 1.0 RC3 is showing CPU#0 at a min of 36 degrees and a max of 40 degrees.

TDP at 124.8 watts


TechPowerUp GPU-Z is showing two GPU temps: one at 56c and the other at 51.3. PCB temp at 44.8c

Any ideas?

Regards.
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Is there anything special I need to do to get cpuz to function properly? It worked fine with my 5000+
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New to the club but have been lurking for a few months.

Been using and enjoying my M2n-SLI Deluxe mobo for quite a few years now.

I have recently upgraded the RAM and GPU. My machine is showing its age getting 20-25 FPS on many online games even in the lowest settings. I am wanting to try to achieve low/medium settings and try to have a constant 30+ frames.

I am considering upgrading my CPU but wanted to weigh in my stats to my fellow club mates to see if I am being reasonable with my expectations.

My current set up is the following:
M2N-SLI Deluxe
4 gigs DDR2
AMD X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3ghz (OCd at stable 2.8 GHZ thanks to the info in this thread)
Asus GT440 (1gb ddr5 model)
64bit win7

While playing games I often get stutters in FPS which is most likely due the games spiking to 98%+ CPU Usage. I notice my graphic's card load barely achieves above 40%. I imagine this could be due to it waiting for my CPU? Changing from lowest graphic settings to medium ones barely effects my FPS performance when my CPU is bogging down, this indicates that my CPU is likely the bottle neck?

I have been reading good things about the phenom 965 and have found some good prices on it. However, I am not sure if the M2N-SLI Deluxe supports the model since its not listed on the ASUS website. I have read through most of these threads and tried using search but couldn't locate any solid information.

Do you think a new CPU is the ticket to solving my problems here? If so, is the 965 a good choice?

If the 965 isn't compatible would I be better off just upgrading my faithful old M2n-SLI Deluxe so I could run a 965?
post #10585 of 11305
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Originally Posted by gayLaser View Post

New to the club but have been lurking for a few months.
Been using and enjoying my M2n-SLI Deluxe mobo for quite a few years now.
I have recently upgraded the RAM and GPU. My machine is showing its age getting 20-25 FPS on many online games even in the lowest settings. I am wanting to try to achieve low/medium settings and try to have a constant 30+ frames.
I am considering upgrading my CPU but wanted to weigh in my stats to my fellow club mates to see if I am being reasonable with my expectations.
My current set up is the following:
M2N-SLI Deluxe
4 gigs DDR2
AMD X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3ghz (OCd at stable 2.8 GHZ thanks to the info in this thread)
Asus GT440 (1gb ddr5 model)
64bit win7
While playing games I often get stutters in FPS which is most likely due the games spiking to 98%+ CPU Usage. I notice my graphic's card load barely achieves above 40%. I imagine this could be due to it waiting for my CPU? Changing from lowest graphic settings to medium ones barely effects my FPS performance when my CPU is bogging down, this indicates that my CPU is likely the bottle neck?
I have been reading good things about the phenom 965 and have found some good prices on it. However, I am not sure if the M2N-SLI Deluxe supports the model since its not listed on the ASUS website. I have read through most of these threads and tried using search but couldn't locate any solid information.
Do you think a new CPU is the ticket to solving my problems here? If so, is the 965 a good choice?
If the 965 isn't compatible would I be better off just upgrading my faithful old M2n-SLI Deluxe so I could run a 965?

Well i got a 955 running in mine this afternoon actually. Shouldnt be a problem. What resolution are you running @ and what games?

My brisbane played skyrim with mods fine @ medium settings @ 3ghz on a 1080p monitor.
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 9/5/12 at 7:50pm
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thanks for advise but I'll pass the homemade production retention bracket.biggrin.gif

I don't get it, as I type my room ambient temp is aprox 26c, cpu is at 38c, gpu 41c but my mother board is at 45c and my 3 hdd's are at 43c, 40c, 39c, not to mention that when I enter a game the mother board sky rockets to 52c and keeps on rising after only 10min. I already cleaned the dust as best I could, switched the video card to second pci e slot so that the side fan blows directly on the chip btw(will I have performance loss for placing gfx card to pci e slot 2??). I spread hdd as far apart as I could, replaced the air out fan with a silverstone fan, switched cpu cooler position so that it blows north toward power supply that is sucking it out of the case. I'm planing to replace the side fan and front case fan to another silverstone fan. should I drill some holes and place another fan on top of the case or bottom and will it help??

any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Rotating the cooler 90degrees should get you a few c's,a little cable management a few more,taking it out of that cubbie hole in the desk a few more.
The black pci-e slot runs at x8,so once you get the cooler turned move it back to the top slot,if there is room below the gfx card ziptry a fan to the back side of the HDD cage blowing back.


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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

My b97 showed up today ($65 shipped for a locked multi 955 cuz I'm cheap) looking forward to playing with my new toy tomorrow.
USB keyboard functions perfect, on first boot with no tweaks its running at 3.2ghz. Woohoo

Downside is I'm only seeing two cores. Any ideas?

Hwmonitor and cpuz don't want to run

Though i had several issues with hwmonitor before anyways.

Core Temp Shows phenom ii x2 597

system info shows x4 b97 and device manager shows 4 cores

task manager shows 2 cores as well

Edit:

A couple of resets later and core temp shows 4 cores, nvidia control panel shows 4 cores, task manager shows four cores.

the multiplier seems unlocked in BIOS, but it defaults to the lowest pstate when i set over 16, and going any higher in nvtools doesnt do anything. Bummer, thought i lucked out.

I had trouble with hw monitor and nvtools also.
I highly recommend trying PMT.

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Originally Posted by Ballyhoogames View Post

Thanks.

No errors.

Typing on home PC now - so far no freeze though probably just a matter of time.

Hmm.

Core Temp 1.0 RC3 is showing CPU#0 at a min of 36 degrees and a max of 40 degrees.

TDP at 124.8 watts


TechPowerUp GPU-Z is showing two GPU temps: one at 56c and the other at 51.3. PCB temp at 44.8c

Any ideas?

Regards.

Are you using Cool & quiet?
as for Gpu temps one is probably core temp and the other is memory temp.

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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

Is there anything special I need to do to get cpuz to function properly? It worked fine with my 5000+

Have tried reistalling cpu-z ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gayLaser View Post

New to the club but have been lurking for a few months.

Been using and enjoying my M2n-SLI Deluxe mobo for quite a few years now.

I have recently upgraded the RAM and GPU. My machine is showing its age getting 20-25 FPS on many online games even in the lowest settings. I am wanting to try to achieve low/medium settings and try to have a constant 30+ frames.

I am considering upgrading my CPU but wanted to weigh in my stats to my fellow club mates to see if I am being reasonable with my expectations.

My current set up is the following:
M2N-SLI Deluxe
4 gigs DDR2
AMD X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3ghz (OCd at stable 2.8 GHZ thanks to the info in this thread)
Asus GT440 (1gb ddr5 model)
64bit win7

While playing games I often get stutters in FPS which is most likely due the games spiking to 98%+ CPU Usage. I notice my graphic's card load barely achieves above 40%. I imagine this could be due to it waiting for my CPU? Changing from lowest graphic settings to medium ones barely effects my FPS performance when my CPU is bogging down, this indicates that my CPU is likely the bottle neck?

I have been reading good things about the phenom 965 and have found some good prices on it. However, I am not sure if the M2N-SLI Deluxe supports the model since its not listed on the ASUS website. I have read through most of these threads and tried using search but couldn't locate any solid information.

Do you think a new CPU is the ticket to solving my problems here? If so, is the 965 a good choice?

If the 965 isn't compatible would I be better off just upgrading my faithful old M2n-SLI Deluxe so I could run a 965?

Yes the x4 965 will work,but it does require the use of a(very simple) software workaround (either Nvtools or Phenommsrtweaker) to get to full speed.
It is very safe,most of us here have been running them for years.
If you don't want to have to use the workaround then any Phenom II up to x4 945 or any Athlon II will work out the box.(With bios update to 5001)


Good luck

Gyro
Edited by Gyro - 9/5/12 at 8:06pm
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post #10587 of 11305
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What resolution are you running @ and what games?
My brisbane played skyrim with mods fine @ medium settings @ 3ghz on a 1080p monitor.

The games that give me problems are MMO FPS games like Planetside 1 and soon Planetside 2. Other MMO FPS games give me similar issues. I imagine it is due to hundreds of people being processed along with all of the projectile tracking that can occur.

I can play them at low resolutions or high resolutions with barely any noticeable change in FPS except in areas where there are low amounts of players, then my FPS sky rockets (I imagine that is because my GPU isn't having to wait as long for my CPU?)
Quote:
Yes the x4 965 will work,but it does require the use of a(very simple) software workaround (either Nvtools or Phenommsrtweaker) to get to full speed.

Thanks for the information Gyro;

Just to make sure, the 965 works in the M2N-SLI (not the 32 version)? I only ask because I didn't see it listed here as a tested set up in the spread sheet and also didn't see it listed on the asus website.

Cheers again everyone, wish I would've stopped lurking sooner.
Edited by gayLaser - 9/5/12 at 8:11pm
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The games that give me problems are MMO FPS games like Planetside 1 and soon Planetside 2. Other MMO FPS games give me similar issues. I imagine it is due to hundreds of people being processed along with all of the projectile tracking that can occur.
I can play them at low resolutions or high resolutions with barely any noticeable change in FPS except in areas where there are low amounts of players, then my FPS sky rockets (I imagine that is because my GPU isn't having to wait as long for my CPU?)
Thanks for the information Gyro;
Just to make sure, the 965 works in the M2N-SLI (not the 32 version)? I only ask because I didn't see it listed here as a tested set up in the spread sheet and also didn't see it listed on the asus website.
Cheers again everyone, wish I would've stopped lurking sooner.

Check my Sig. I have the m2n sli dlx not the "32" running a business class phenom ii 955
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Ah, forgive me then -- If a 955 works then a 965 definitely would? I thought that since they have different specs the chance of it not being supported was a possibility. Thanks for clearing that up.

Would a phenom ii 965 BE be a good choice for my board? I have seen people recommend other CPU such as the 950, 940 etc to users who have asked for a recommendation in this thread. I am hoping to go with an upgrade that will have a decent chance of being competent for as long as my 4400 Brisbane has. It looks like I can pick up a 965 for $90 as well, which seems like a decent price for such a popular CPU.
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Ah, forgive me then -- If a 955 works then a 965 definitely would? I thought that since they have different specs the chance of it not being supported was a possibility. Thanks for clearing that up.
Would a phenom ii 965 BE be a good choice for my board? I have seen people recommend other CPU such as the 950, 940 etc to users who have asked for a recommendation in this thread. I am hoping to go with an upgrade that will have a decent chance of being competent for as long as my 4400 Brisbane has. It looks like I can pick up a 965 for $90 as well, which seems like a decent price for such a popular CPU.

To my knowledge the only reason to get the 945 or lower would be so as to not require some tweaking of settings one time. If you can navigate a BIOS, overclock, figure out how to upgrade your CPU, and have a ps2 keyboard handy then there is no reason to buy one of the older c2 chips. The c3 chips 955 and 965 for example overclock better and run cooler. I considered getting a c2 (925 equivalent) but in the end the c3 was cheaper and th potential drawbacks seemed quite minimal. Go with the 965

Read over the am3 install instructions in the google spreadsheet on the op to get an idea. I didn't even realize it was there until after I had my new CPU installed and computer back up and running.
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 9/5/12 at 11:59pm
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