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indeed, that will be my next processor. When the 940 Phenom II came out, i was sold... but once i found out the am3 processors worked in our board and the Tricore 720 BE was released, i decided thats what im going to get for sure Until atleast a *****en 3+ ghz black edition am3 quadcore comes out. I probably wont bother to upgrade my mobo or ram until i get to the new am3 quadcores myself.
I would still like to know the performance difference from the 940BE to the 720BE. Right now you can get a 720 for about 150.00$ and a 940 for about 215.00$ . 65 dollars isn't a huge ammount of $$ if the quad is worth it. I know it also depends on how much you overclock it and how compatible it is with the older MB's.
post #1062 of 12343
AM3 CPUs (including Phenom IIs) has 938 pins, while AM2/AM2+ has 940.

That is a simple solution found by AMD allowing people to use new Ph2s (938pin) on old boards (940pin hole on CPU socket) while preventing them to use old CPUs (940pin) on new AM3 boards (938pin hole on CPU socket).

Just clever marketing strategy to sell more product.

FYI,

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check the pin configuration on AM3 CPU's I was led to believe they don't have the same number of pins. I could have been misled.

Edited by TheFoister - 3/9/09 at 12:15am
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Yesterday i updated my chipset drivers to the latest from nvidia. When I was done windows XP told me i had to rreactivate my account because I had changed too much of my system.

Gonna call MS tonight and ask for a new activation key. Else I will have to deinstall the drivers (will that work?).
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Yesterday i updated my chipset drivers to the latest from nvidia. When I was done windows XP told me i had to rreactivate my account because I had changed too much of my system.

Gonna call MS tonight and ask for a new activation key. Else I will have to deinstall the drivers (will that work?).
Woooaaahhh. I did the same and it didn't say anything like that... you install SP3? I didn't...
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Yes I did install SP3. You think it's becasue of that?

I did install additional memory and a new processor (replaced my X2 4200 for a X2 6000, but that was no problem (no deactivation). That was like 2 or 3 weeks ago. Yesterday I just installed new drivers. Could it be that windows thinks I have a differrent MB after installing new chipset drivers?

I have read some accounts on vista and nvidia chipset drivers deactivating windows. So it seems possible thant driver installation causes windows WGA to think I have new hardware.

I hate their WGA!:swearing: 3 years ago I had a similar issue. I have a legit WinXP and after some windowsupdate I suddenly got a notification that I have to buy a new legit version of windows, and that was before I changed out any hardware. Luckily I was not the only one and MS was kind enough to give me a new activationkey. I hope they will be klind enough to help me this time as well.
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AM3 CPUs (including Phenom IIs) has 938 pins, while AM2/AM2+ has 940.

That is a simple solution found by AMD allowing people to use new Ph2s (938pin) on old boards (940pin hole on CPU socket) while preventing them to use old CPUs (940pin) on new AM3 boards (938pin hole on CPU socket).

Just clever marketing strategy to sell more product.

FYI,
It actually ends up hurting motherboard sales, since people are given the option to upgrade their CPU long before there is a need to update the mobo.
It makes a lot of sense to do this in an economy that is tanking ATM.
AMD/ATI has a always been better at adapting to the times than Intel, which just releases the biggest baddest thing they possibly can, and pay very little attention to their customers' financial needs. Intel forces people to spend more money than it is possibly worth IMHO.
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It actually ends up hurting motherboard sales, since people are given the option to upgrade their CPU long before there is a need to update the mobo.
It makes a lot of sense to do this in an economy that is tanking ATM.
AMD/ATI has a always been better at adapting to the times than Intel, which just releases the biggest baddest thing they possibly can, and pay very little attention to their customers' financial needs. Intel forces people to spend more money than it is possibly worth IMHO.
That's exactly right.

While some of us with 2 year-old boards can upgrade to AMD's latest offerings, Intel customers must upgrade just about every component to go i7.
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I've been meaning to ask those who have a PII a question. I've read about random BSOD during shutdowns and "unknown model" messages during startup but I hardly ever turn off completely my computer, I usually put it in sleep mode.
Has anyone tried this? have you noticed any problems such as the system freezing or something. It may be a stupid question but I may get a 940 next weekend and I want to know as much as I can.
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I've been meaning to ask those who have a PII a question. I've read about random BSOD during shutdowns and "unknown model" messages during startup but I hardly ever turn off completely my computer, I usually put it in sleep mode.
Has anyone tried this? have you noticed any problems such as the system freezing or something. It may be a stupid question but I may get a 940 next weekend and I want to know as much as I can.
RagingInferno would be the first person to ask. I am sure he will be along shortly


I actually have a question about BIOS flashing on my board. Which BIOS would be best to use with a 9850 BE? I know that the 1801 BIOS provides support for it, but would it be better to just get the 2101 BIOS and know that whatever comes along, I have the latest possible BIOS? Are there any bugs associated with any of the BIOS revisions?
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It might be different with 940s but I had no problem running my 720. As far as I see the "unknown model" issue is ignorable.

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I've been meaning to ask those who have a PII a question. I've read about random BSOD during shutdowns and "unknown model" messages during startup but I hardly ever turn off completely my computer, I usually put it in sleep mode.
Has anyone tried this? have you noticed any problems such as the system freezing or something. It may be a stupid question but I may get a 940 next weekend and I want to know as much as I can.
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