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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

I could never get my chip to pass 12 hours of prime with anything over 3.6ghz on my non 32 board.
watch your vrm temps. Active cooling helped me there dramatically.
your setup is quite similar to mine I have a locked multi chip an m2nsli dlx and mixed RAM. You do have much better CPU cooling than I however, and @ 3.6 Im flirting with temps that are too high after awhile in P95


This was the settings i was happiest with

Also I had to use an older version of CPU-Z to get it to read anything IIRC. Not surprised that its a bit buggy in Win8

And you believe it's due to the limitations of the motherboard, not the CPU, or something else?

...I have a much better CPU cooler but I also don't live in California, haha...

I seem to have reached a bottleneck that I have been unable to overcome... I can't seem to get my FSB higher than 250 (actually, I cant even get it to 250) ... the system won't even get past the BIOS, or even POST when I try to set it higher...

but everything is rock solid at 247

my HT multiplier is 4x and I lower the RAM to 533 (so I don't go over its rated 800mhz)...

I've tried bumping the Vcore voltage to 1.485 and it still doesn't even want to boot windows.... but it's rock solid at 247 with much less voltage (1.4375)

Is there anything else I can tweak, settings wise? or have I reached the top end of my CPU performance... max temp full load i've seen at current FSB and voltage is only 45 so I gotta believe I can squeeze a bit more out of it!


BTW... How do I monitor vrm temps?

Edit.... I just read back to page 1069 and 1070 and it's becoming apparent to me what you were talking about and that I might have reached the limitation of my motherboard
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I figured out what was wrong. I had a virus, and it must've messed around with settings in my BIOS. I flashed the BIOS, but Windows was still holding every time it started and I couldn't figure out why. I started flicking settings in the BIOS, and it turns out that having ganged memory was required. I didn't think it was required as some users report they achieve better performance with unganged memory. Hope this helps someone and they don't have to go through the same thing (I didn't read through the entire thread to see if someone else has had this problem before, though.)

Thanks for sharing, sorry that no one here was able to help. I also have heard that unganged is superior and thats the way that I have my ram set.
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And you believe it's due to the limitations of the motherboard, not the CPU, or something else?

...I have a much better CPU cooler but I also don't live in California, haha...

I seem to have reached a bottleneck that I have been unable to overcome... I can't seem to get my FSB higher than 250 (actually, I cant even get it to 250) ... the system won't even get past the BIOS, or even POST when I try to set it higher...

but everything is rock solid at 247

my HT multiplier is 4x and I lower the RAM to 533 (so I don't go over its rated 800mhz)...

I've tried bumping the Vcore voltage to 1.485 and it still doesn't even want to boot windows.... but it's rock solid at 247 with much less voltage (1.4375)

Is there anything else I can tweak, settings wise? or have I reached the top end of my CPU performance... max temp full load i've seen at current FSB and voltage is only 45 so I gotta believe I can squeeze a bit more out of it!


BTW... How do I monitor vrm temps?

Edit.... I just read back to page 1069 and 1070 and it's becoming apparent to me what you were talking about and that I might have reached the limitation of my motherboard

I monitor vrm temps with nTune. It shows "MCP" as a sensor and that is your motherboard temps.

Glad you found some useful info from my old posts, I was hoping that keeping track of that stuff would be useful. thumb.gif

So your running 247x14? I can get mine to 257x14.

Drop HT to 3x?

Bump ram voltages a bit since ddr2 can take a bunch of volts.

Try booting @ 250+ with a much lower multi to see if its the board limiting you or something else?
I could run windows @ 4+ghz @ 250x16, but not stress stable. Drops the 4th core real quick
and 258x14 fails eventually. (~15 hours) This may have been just tickling some temp threshold, but 257x14 works. rolleyes.gif
Even booted @ 265 x13.5




You have a 925 right? Those are c2, whereas mine is c3 i believe which IIRC the C2's take a bit more volts
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Thanks, I'll try all of what you mentioned and report back.... I do have the C3 revision of the 925 though (they made both) ...which from what I've read the C3's overclock better, but as you mentioned can't take as much voltage as the C2 (at least not according to what AMD specc'd)

Here's what It looks like as I'm typing this



I used the same version of CPU-Z as you and the rest of the info populated for me... thanks for the tip


I'm off to go adjust a few more numbers and see if I can get lucky,

thanks again


edit..... seems like the DDR2 Voltage was exactly what was holding me back, even though I had brought it down to 1:1 when trying to go over 250, it still wouldn't even let me boot windows or post....as soon as I upped the DDR2 voltage to 2V it went past the previous bottleneck... running at 257x14 with prime95 torture test as this is being posted!
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Thanks, I'll try all of what you mentioned and report back.... I do have the C3 revision of the 925 though (they made both) ...which from what I've read the C3's overclock better, but as you mentioned can't take as much voltage as the C2 (at least not according to what AMD specc'd)

Here's what It looks like as I'm typing this



I used the same version of CPU-Z as you and the rest of the info populated for me... thanks for the tip


I'm off to go adjust a few more numbers and see if I can get lucky,

thanks again


edit..... seems like the DDR2 Voltage was exactly what was holding me back, even though I had brought it down to 1:1 when trying to go over 250, it still wouldn't even let me boot windows or post....as soon as I upped the DDR2 voltage to 2V it went past the previous bottleneck... running at 257x14 with prime95 torture test as this is being posted!
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Need some insight guys, I've been thinking of upgrading my board,my eyes are strained from research,I know what i'd like " Crosshair V ,Sabertooth 990FX etc.but my bank account says no, any thought on a mid range quality board,What are your thoughts on the ASRock 970 EXTREME3 I want to pass my sweet m2n 32 sli delux on to my boy,(he's still using the soyo dragon agp from 2003 he inherited from me) but I'm having trouble finding somthing comparable to this board I need the e-sata and the wi-fi is nice but i can manage without it, I also have the option of buying another M32N sli for $50, I will be keeping my cpu gpu etc. I have a 6000+ and 2 msi 512mb gt 8800's for the boy plus he would get the memory and such. How much improvement do you think a newer chipset and ddr3 will get me,TIA
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It could get you a fair amount of improvement if everything is running tick tock tick tock as it should when over clocked and cooled properly. Naturally the DDR3 and PCIe 2.0 is gonna give you a we bit of a fair advantage but would most likely be negligable against the M2N32 as it was the staple for AMD's release of the AM2 platform wink.gif

DDR3 and PCIe 2.0 x16 AM3 CPU w/higher memclocks will always fair better than what you have now. It all comes down to this... Do you need faster or are you just itching to upgrage ???

Edit:

In my opinion the cheapest and best board for AM3 w/the best performance is MSI's 790FX-GD70 or NF980-G65 one is an AMD and the other is an Nvidia Chipped board and you can't go wrong w/either.

Finding one however will be another challenge.

Oh and you are not going to get Wifi w/either. AsRock made a AM2+ board w/wifi http://www.asrock.com/mb/nvidia/k10n780slix3-wifi/

but it also is also hard to find.

You can spend a but load however as you mentioned on more modern ASUS boards but the bank account won't like it and you probably can't handle it :/

$50.00 for a working M2N32 SLI Deluxe is a steal any day thumb.gif Just know you are going to have no fun trying to locate DDR2 ram for this board... tongue.gif
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It could get you a fair amount of improvement if everything is running tick tock tick tock as it should when over clocked and cooled properly. Naturally the DDR3 and PCIe 2.0 is gonna give you a we bit of a fair advantage but would most likely be negligable against the M2N32 as it was the staple for AMD's release of the AM2 platform wink.gif

DDR3 and PCIe 2.0 x16 AM3 CPU w/higher memclocks will always fair better than what you have now. It all comes down to this... Do you need faster or are you just itching to upgrage ???

I'm actually pretty content with this board, it runs most game at high or better with the old gt460, it's the boy that needs the upgrade, and if I buy a new board I,m keeping it and he gets the old one that's just the way it is in PaPaBlista's realm LoL, thats why i mentioned the other m2n32 for 50 buucks, I never even thought about the pci e 2.0 but that shouldn't make a really big difference should it as far as my old 460 being bottlenecked.



He gets the 6 gb of OCZ memory I'm running now, (He's running a P4 3.0, 2gb ddr 400 and a 1gb AGP ati card now) I have been eyeing that MSI 790FX-GD70 there still available on ebay, (thats where I got this board back in 07)
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It could get you a fair amount of improvement if everything is running tick tock tick tock as it should when over clocked and cooled properly. Naturally the DDR3 and PCIe 2.0 is gonna give you a we bit of a fair advantage but would most likely be negligable against the M2N32 as it was the staple for AMD's release of the AM2 platform wink.gif

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Edit:

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Finding one however will be another challenge.

Oh and you are not going to get Wifi w/either. AsRock made a AM2+ board w/wifi http://www.asrock.com/mb/nvidia/k10n780slix3-wifi/

but it also is also hard to find.

You can spend a but load however as you mentioned on more modern ASUS boards but the bank account won't like it and you probably can't handle it :/

$50.00 for a working M2N32 SLI Deluxe is a steal any day thumb.gif Just know you are going to have no fun trying to locate DDR2 ram for this board... tongue.gif

There is a MSI 790fx-gd70 on the bay at $10.50 with 7 days to go I'm keeping a eye on it and there is one for $98 buy it now. I'd like to just get the $50 m2n32 also like you said its a steal, it is missing the wi-fi card I'd just give the boy mine like I said I get along without wi-fi and that would just free up a usb port on the board lol, but I have to decide one or the other I'm on a limited budget, and if I get a newer board it will future proof me for a while and I'll have to get at least 8 gb of ddr3
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I could sell ya the Wifi card for the board wink.gif as I have an extra wink wink tongue.gif If you have enough ram I'd get the M2N32 as they are pretty bullet proof. MSI on the other hand is pretty much a crap shoot. I have had problems pretty much w/every single one I have ever owned except for the 790FX-GD70 I sold here on OCN. Naturally I never got a chance to use it fully so that could be another reason why I did not experience any problems with it. In any case I'd have to say not to many boards are built like they were back in the day of the M2N32. Now days they use lesser quality componants and less voltage regulators etc etc to get the job done. M2N32 has 8+2 if that means any thing to you teaching.gif
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