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thats the 4000+ that 2.1ghz and yeah the 4000+ over clocks alot higher then a 4200+ it requires around 1.65v to reach 3ghz with a 4200+ which would require watercooling so 2.7 is about the best it can do with the 89w tdp 4200+ if he would have had a 65w or the 35w version then yeah he could have went to 2.8-3.1
Edited by ozlay - 5/17/13 at 3:50pm
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I've got an M2N-SLI Deluxe. It originally had an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition processor, but I never bothered overclocking it. It has four 2GB sticks of RAM (8GB total).

I recently bought a Phenom II X4 970 off eBay because I wanted to upgrade my box without spending the cash to replace all the innards. At the time, I didn't realize that the 945 was the fastest CPU officially supported on this board. However, since I've got the 970 now, I may as well give it a shot. If it turns out to be too much trouble, I'll sell it & buy the 945 anyway, but until then...

I've now got the 5001 BIOS installed. I set the CPU voltage to 1.35V and the CPU multiplier to 17.5. The RAM is automatically identified as DDR2 800 Unganged Mode.

This system runs Ubuntu 12.10 Linux, NOT Windows, so I don't have access to any of the Windows utilities.

The system boots up just fine, but it feels a little stuttery. After 15-20 minutes of light desktop use, I don't see any indication of instability. Running some benchmarks shows that, as a whole, the system is now a little bit slower than it was with my Athlon, which of course is not what I wanted. According to CPUBenchmark.net, this 970 should be more than three times faster than my Athlon.

The OS claims that all four cores are 3.5GHz, which sounds correct. According to 'top', all four cores are getting used during the benchmarks. All 8GB of RAM is being recognized by the OS. CPU temp is in the 40's.

I'm not looking to overclock this thing. I just want a stable system that's considerably faster than my old Athlon. What should I be looking at now to figure out why the system is so slow?
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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan-YJ View Post

I've got an M2N-SLI Deluxe. It originally had an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition processor, but I never bothered overclocking it. It has four 2GB sticks of RAM (8GB total).

I recently bought a Phenom II X4 970 off eBay because I wanted to upgrade my box without spending the cash to replace all the innards. At the time, I didn't realize that the 945 was the fastest CPU officially supported on this board. However, since I've got the 970 now, I may as well give it a shot. If it turns out to be too much trouble, I'll sell it & buy the 945 anyway, but until then...

I've now got the 5001 BIOS installed. I set the CPU voltage to 1.35V and the CPU multiplier to 17.5. The RAM is automatically identified as DDR2 800 Unganged Mode.

This system runs Ubuntu 12.10 Linux, NOT Windows, so I don't have access to any of the Windows utilities.

The system boots up just fine, but it feels a little stuttery. After 15-20 minutes of light desktop use, I don't see any indication of instability. Running some benchmarks shows that, as a whole, the system is now a little bit slower than it was with my Athlon, which of course is not what I wanted. According to CPUBenchmark.net, this 970 should be more than three times faster than my Athlon.

The OS claims that all four cores are 3.5GHz, which sounds correct. According to 'top', all four cores are getting used during the benchmarks. All 8GB of RAM is being recognized by the OS. CPU temp is in the 40's.

I'm not looking to overclock this thing. I just want a stable system that's considerably faster than my old Athlon. What should I be looking at now to figure out why the system is so slow?

most of us running phenom ii c3 chips like yourself have to run a Windows utility to force the CPU to run at stock speeds. this motherboard almost always downclocks those chips, and your lower benchmark scores seem to show that this is the case for you as well. I've no idea if there is a utility for linux that will work the same.

you should wait until we get a few responses however, there are several people still paying attn to this club that have helped people with this since it was first discovered.

personally I have the business class chip with a locked multi that does not require the workaround. afaik this is the only way to get a c3 chip run at full speed without the Windows utilities.
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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan-YJ View Post

I've got an M2N-SLI Deluxe. It originally had an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Black Edition processor, but I never bothered overclocking it. It has four 2GB sticks of RAM (8GB total).

I recently bought a Phenom II X4 970 off eBay because I wanted to upgrade my box without spending the cash to replace all the innards. At the time, I didn't realize that the 945 was the fastest CPU officially supported on this board. However, since I've got the 970 now, I may as well give it a shot. If it turns out to be too much trouble, I'll sell it & buy the 945 anyway, but until then...

I've now got the 5001 BIOS installed. I set the CPU voltage to 1.35V and the CPU multiplier to 17.5. The RAM is automatically identified as DDR2 800 Unganged Mode.

This system runs Ubuntu 12.10 Linux, NOT Windows, so I don't have access to any of the Windows utilities.

The system boots up just fine, but it feels a little stuttery. After 15-20 minutes of light desktop use, I don't see any indication of instability. Running some benchmarks shows that, as a whole, the system is now a little bit slower than it was with my Athlon, which of course is not what I wanted. According to CPUBenchmark.net, this 970 should be more than three times faster than my Athlon.

The OS claims that all four cores are 3.5GHz, which sounds correct. According to 'top', all four cores are getting used during the benchmarks. All 8GB of RAM is being recognized by the OS. CPU temp is in the 40's.

I'm not looking to overclock this thing. I just want a stable system that's considerably faster than my old Athlon. What should I be looking at now to figure out why the system is so slow?

Your CPU is running at 800MHz. You need to use this application to get it running at its proper frequency:
http://www.ztex.de/misc/k10ctl.e.html
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thats the 4000+ that 2.1ghz and yeah the 4000+ over clocks alot higher then a 4200+ it requires around 1.65v to reach 3ghz with a 4200+ which would require watercooling so 2.7 is about the best it can do with the 89w tdp 4200+ if he would have had a 65w or the 35w version then yeah he could have went to 2.8-3.1
5000BE could hit 3ghz fairly easily.
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5000BE could hit 3ghz fairly easily.

mine did 3.1 at stock volts, and 3.3 max
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Your CPU is running at 800MHz. You need to use this application to get it running at its proper frequency:
http://www.ztex.de/misc/k10ctl.e.html
exactly what he needed, rep
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5000BE could hit 3ghz fairly easily.

Perhaps, but each core would still be slower than my 3.5GHz 970, and it's still only two cores, not four.
Edited by Obi-Wan-YJ - 5/18/13 at 5:43pm
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Your CPU is running at 800MHz. You need to use this application to get it running at its proper frequency:
http://www.ztex.de/misc/k10ctl.e.html

Thanks for the pointer. I've got k10ctl installed now. After looking into its usage, I'm still a little confused. Here's what I've got on all four cores:
Code:
# k10ctl 0
VID interface mode: parallel

CPU0
Current P-State: 0      Fastest P-State: 0
               NbVid   NbDid  CpuVid  CpuDid  CpuFid           UNb   CpuMult      UCpu     PCore
P-State 0:        38       0      38       0      19       687.5mV  17.50000   687.5mV    7425mW
Low Limit:       124       1     124                       375.0mV   0.50000   375.0mV
High Limit:        0       1       0                      1550.0mV   0.00000  1550.0mV
Target:           38       0      38       0      19       687.5mV  17.50000   687.5mV
Current:          38       0      38       1       0       687.5mV   4.00000   687.5mV

As best I can tell, it looks like P-State 0 and Target are both set where they need to be, yet Current is down at 800 MHz. What must I do to set the CPU to 3.5GHz?
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Thanks for the pointer. I've got k10ctl installed now. After looking into its usage, I'm still a little confused. Here's what I've got on all four cores:
Code:
# k10ctl 0
VID interface mode: parallel

CPU0
Current P-State: 0      Fastest P-State: 0
               NbVid   NbDid  CpuVid  CpuDid  CpuFid           UNb   CpuMult      UCpu     PCore
P-State 0:        38       0      38       0      19       687.5mV  17.50000   687.5mV    7425mW
Low Limit:       124       1     124                       375.0mV   0.50000   375.0mV
High Limit:        0       1       0                      1550.0mV   0.00000  1550.0mV
Target:           38       0      38       0      19       687.5mV  17.50000   687.5mV
Current:          38       0      38       1       0       687.5mV   4.00000   687.5mV

As best I can tell, it looks like P-State 0 and Target are both set where they need to be, yet Current is down at 800 MHz. What must I do to set the CPU to 3.5GHz?
maybe this is helpful?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/K10ctl
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