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TheFoister, thank you for including those links. Just to cover my basis as I am still learning about the new PhII chips, the "NB Frequency" is on die correct? To figure out the NB Frequency are we multiplying the "NB Multiplier" and "HTT reference clocK" speed to get our NB Frequency? It seems like anything close to 2800Mhz requires some additional cooling.

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TheFoister, thank you for including those links. Just to cover my basis as I am still learning about the new PhII chips, the "NB Frequency" is on die correct? To figure out the NB Frequency are we multiplying the "NB Multiplier" and "HTT reference clocK" speed to get our NB Frequency? It seems like anything close to 2800Mhz requires some additional cooling.

Good luck
I'm w/u on that one, learning the new Phenom chips is a task. The NB Frequency is not to be mistaken for the HT Link spd. I always try to keep the HT below 1150 and usually closer to the 1000 mark either way up or down. I have never seen this NB Frequency in the memory tab of CPU-z until yesterday when I was trying to go over all the specs and make this little chip rock. I'm not sure but I think the TheFoister may be confusing the HT Link with the NB Frequency.

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I agree with that.

I've read in several forums that with AM2/AM2+ boards, it is advised to keep the HT overall speed between 1000MHZ and 1500MHZ for stability reasons. I personally keep it just in the middle at 1225 (5x245) which is solid so far.

Here is a fellow speaking about his experience while playing with HT on m2n32:
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1033368587&postcount=14

An here is a link that I found very informative about how phenoms behave and different than athlons while overclocking:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=258
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I agree with that.

I've read in several forums that with AM2/AM2+ boards, it is advised to keep the HT overall speed between 1000MHZ and 1500MHZ for stability reasons. I personally keep it just in the middle at 1225 (5x245) which is solid so far.

Here is a fellow speaking about his experience while playing with HT on m2n32:
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.ph...7&postcount=14

An here is a link that I found very informative about how phenoms behave, and how differently from athlons, while overclocking:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=258
The first link was a good one, tho pretty hard to follow. What did he mean when he said "The only negative with Phenom i didnt like was B2"?

The second link is a great post. I wish I could give HIM some rep. Heh. Still reading that one, however...

So, for the Kuma Core (2x Core Phenom) I would need BIOS 2001 or higher, ya?

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I'm not sure but I think the TheFoister may be confusing the HT Link with the NB Frequency.
I don't see how you get that from what he said, tbh.
Edited by Slink - 3/18/09 at 10:20am
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I don't see how you get that from what he said, tbh.
My oppologies to The Foister. I'm still confuse and made that statement based on his post before reading the included links. However after reading the links I am starting to see a more clear pickture as to why this mobo may never officially be supported by Asus to run the AMD Phenom 2 cpu's. I will have to study the bios even more w/a fine toothe comb and make sure before I put my foot in my mouth again.
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The first link was a good one, tho pretty hard to follow. What did he mean when he said "The only negative with Phenom i didnt like was B2"?

The second link is a great post. I wish I could give HIM some rep. Heh. Still reading that one, however...

So, for the Kuma Core (2x Core Phenom) I would need BIOS 2001 or higher, ya?
I believe he was talking about the stepping of the CPU. The original Phenoms were plagued by the TLB bug, and I believe that was fixed with the B3 stepping, IIRC.

For the Kuma chip, you only need the 1802 BIOS, since it is a tri-core with one of the cores disabled. All the tri-core Phenoms are supported with the 1802 BIOS, although there is no official BIOS support for the Kuma.
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I may be mistaken again but apparently there is a bios setting for the Phenom 2 in the bios for NB Frequency that does not appear in our mobo bios, even w/the new release of 2205. This may have to do w/hardware limitations. You gotta remember this mobo is what AMD & ASUS put together to push the new AM2 socket back when they first released the AM2 socket. So for it to even be able to utilize this Phenom II chip is something short os fantastic. I will be pleased that I can use this chip for as long as possible till my mobo no longer want's to post. I may or may not still have a warranty period by that time but well just have to waite & see when I get to that point if it every happens.
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Hi... I'm new here. I was just wondering what expereinces people have with running 4 sticks on RAM in the Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe. (Sorry if this has been answered before.. the thread is over 100 pages long.)

I am considering removing my current 2 x 1GB (1066Mhz), and putting in 4 x 2GB sticks @ 1066Mhz for a total of 8GB.

I have heard that in some motherboards, filling all 4 slots usually means slower maximum speeds for the RAM. Will I be able to hit over 800Mhz with RAM in all 4 slots? The main reason I'm asking is... if I can't hit lets say 900+Mhz, then I might just get 800Mhz RAM and save money.
Thanks
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Hi... I'm new here. I was just wondering what expereinces people have with running 4 sticks on RAM in the Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe. (Sorry if this has been answered before.. the thread is over 100 pages long.)

I am considering removing my current 2 x 1GB (1066Mhz), and putting in 4 x 2GB sticks @ 1066Mhz for a total of 8GB.

I have heard that in some motherboards, filling all 4 slots usually means slower maximum speeds for the RAM. Will I be able to hit over 800Mhz with RAM in all 4 slots? The main reason I'm asking is... if I can't hit lets say 900+Mhz, then I might just get 800Mhz RAM and save money.
Thanks
That is a good question and there may be one or two users here w/any hands on experience with a similar configureations on this board. W/any luck the new bios 2205 will resolve most issue w/ram. However, I noticed your only running 32 bit os so unless your gonna upgrade to a 64 bit os then it would be pointless to exceed 4 gig of ram.
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I am considering removing my current 2 x 1GB (1066Mhz), and putting in 4 x 2GB sticks @ 1066Mhz for a total of 8GB.

I have heard that in some motherboards, filling all 4 slots usually means slower maximum speeds for the RAM. Will I be able to hit over 800Mhz with RAM in all 4 slots? The main reason I'm asking is... if I can't hit lets say 900+Mhz, then I might just get 800Mhz RAM and save money.
Mr_Speedy, it's hard to say until you starting testing. That large amount of memory could limit your OC (stress on the integrated memory controller). You may have to add some additional voltage to the memory but I don't see you having problems running the memory at the factory 1066Mhz speed.

Perhaps someone else can chime in on the above question

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Hi... I'm new here. I was just wondering what expereinces people have with running 4 sticks on RAM in the Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe. (Sorry if this has been answered before.. the thread is over 100 pages long.)

I am considering removing my current 2 x 1GB (1066Mhz), and putting in 4 x 2GB sticks @ 1066Mhz for a total of 8GB.

I have heard that in some motherboards, filling all 4 slots usually means slower maximum speeds for the RAM. Will I be able to hit over 800Mhz with RAM in all 4 slots? The main reason I'm asking is... if I can't hit lets say 900+Mhz, then I might just get 800Mhz RAM and save money.
Thanks
A newbie who fills in system specs without asking deserves an answer

I ran 4x2GB in this board. I would advise against it. 8GB of memory will never be used, and it is total e-peen. There is virtually no performance gain and OCing becomes much more difficult.
Your best bet is to get a 2x2GB kit. 4GB is the magic number.
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