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Yes as a matter of fact there is all kinds of issues... This mobo is/was made for am2 and coinsidentally can run some am2+ cpu's but the factory HT speed is 1000 w/a system buss of 2000/1600 what ever that means. I think they double the 1000 if you are running a x2 duel core but honestly I'm really not sure on that or what it means (2000/1600) ???
N2Gaming, from what I understand Hypertransport uses a double data rate type connection meaning it sends both data up and downstream. For Kuma it should be 1800mhz * 2 (3600mhz). I believe the "2000/1600" that you mentioned above means the board supports both 1600Mhz and 2000Mhz HT speeds.

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N2Gaming, from what I understand Hypertransport uses a double data rate type connection meaning it sends both data up and downstream. For Kuma it should be 1800mhz * 2 (3600mhz). I believe the "2000/1600" that you mentioned above means the board supports both 1600Mhz and 2000Mhz HT speeds.

Hope that helps
thlnk3r your answer sounds better then nothing or no answer at all and it does help me understand a little better. So bassically it works like DDR ram.???
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post #1573 of 12359
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Arrowslinger, if you haven't already here is a very helpful overclocking guide that I recommend reading over. The guide explains on how to isolate each component. This procedure will show you how to set a baseline which should allow for easier overclocking: http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...ocket-am2.html.

Please don't hesitate to ask more questions.
Good luck
Yes, please do. It's a great thread that really got me moving in the proper direction. Problem is, the Kuma is an AM2+ core, and there are more things to take into account.

There's a great post a back a few pages with a link to another forum (about AM2+ cores and how they are different from AM2 cores). Gotta go!
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post #1574 of 12359
So since the highest divider I can reach is x5 does that mean I need to set my NB to SB HT freq to around 360 to = 1800 ?
becuase if thats the case I dont think it will go that high... any ideas..?
p.s. I'm running the 7750 now I will change my system specs later
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Guys, I was under the impression that the factory HT link speed is 1800Mhz (3600Mhz)? Is there performance issues running a lower HT speed on these boards?

Thanks
If i had a cpu rated at those HT speeds, i would definately feel inclined to try and get it there, even through overclock if i have to. I only have cpu's rated for 1000 (2000 Mhz)... so im way above where i should be with this chip. HT is basically your real "FSB" the faster the better if you ask me.
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post #1576 of 12359
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So basically it works like DDR ram.???
N2Gaming, correct. The connection speed is doubled though I believe the bandwidth numbers are different. Hypertransport is explained more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTr...mplementations.

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So since the highest divider I can reach is x5 does that mean I need to set my NB to SB HT freq to around 360 to = 1800 ?
becuase if thats the case I dont think it will go that high... any ideas..?
p.s. I'm running the 7750 now I will change my system specs later
N2Gaming, how do you calculate this in your board? I'm looking at the manual now and CPU<->MCP55 HT only allows multipliers starting from 1x to 5x.

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360 x 5 would be right, be creative to get it running right.
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HT is basically your real "FSB" the faster the better if you ask me.
AllenG, well faster the better is not necessarily always the case. In my experiences I saw no difference from running an HT speed of 700Mhz versus 1000Mhz. This of course was with a Socket 939 system so it may be different for PhII. The increased HT speed for AM2 did how ever offer some faster OS loading times (reported tests from user Blitz6804). I do know that some AM2 processors overclock quite well between HT speeds of 1200 - 1400Mhz.

Hope that helps

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360 x 5 would be right, be creative to get it running right.
AllenG, thanks for the clarification
Edited by thlnk3r - 3/24/09 at 4:30pm
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AllenG, well faster the better is not necessarily always the case. In my experiences I saw no difference from running an HT speed of 700Mhz versus 1000Mhz. This of course was with a Socket 939 system so it may be different for PhII. The increased HT speed for AM2 did how ever offer some faster OS loading times (reported tests from user Blitz6804). I do know that some AM2 processors overclock quite well between HT speeds of 1200 - 1400Mhz.

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The fastest stable point, balanced... Its a balancing act of ram, ht speed, and core speed.
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Of course AllenG your are speaking in theory as you have yet to try a Phenom II processor in this board yet. I am prolly going to have to RMA one of my boards. And I will be looking to get a newer AM2+ mobo that will support the 1800 2600 NB Frequency of the Phenom II chip. I'm curiouse to see what it can really do.
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