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N2Gaming, question about the M2N32-SLI Deluxe...if DDR2 1066 memory is installed will the BIOS display it as running at 533Mhz or will it just default to 400Mhz (DDR2 800)? I understand some users had issues enabling DDR2 1066 support in the BIOS for this board.

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thlnk3r it all depends on the bios rev flashed on the board. The latest bios add's ddr2 1066 ram spd's and a whole lot more ram timming choices. I have not even begun to persue playing w/the many added ram features w/the latest 2205 bios update. I would post a screen shot of my system If I had it up and running but I'm trying to sell it atm and have not even fired it up for testing. I Guess that would be a good thing to do since I don't want to sell something to someone before I even ship it to someone... So I will set it up pretty soon here and show you a screen shot of the Ph II 940 cpu and DDR2 1066 ram spd's and timings.


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I appreciate ur great help and time
NP that's why we are all here. Did you ask to be a member of the club becuase I do not remember. If so just let me know and I will add you to the roster.
Edited by N2Gaming - 4/8/09 at 2:39pm
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N2Gaming, thanks for the response.

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im not sure about 1066mhz on this board, maybe you can enlight me about it

as far as 800mhz...which 1 wud u go 4?
Giukas, I would also like to note that certain memory IC's are capable of higher overclocks. It's really hard to say what type of IC's are on the memory you selected. There are sometimes several different revisions of memory that are the same model. The revision number is usually listed on the memory via sticker.

Good luck with your purchase
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just dropped by to say happy 100 rep N2Gaming
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im not sure about 1066mhz on this board, maybe you can enlight me about it
thx ev'body for input
As thlnk3r said, different RAM chips have different capabilities. My RAM is sold with the specifications DDR2_1150 @ 5-6-6-18, @ 2.2v. (These timings are pretty unrealistic at 2.7 GHz CPU.) I am running at 2.3v (yes, very high voltage, but the RAM has excellent cooling) at DDR2_1060 @ 6-6-6-20, with a CPU freq. of 2.7 GHz. I'm still working on seeing how fast the RAM can go... Remember: advertised RAM speed and timings are relative to CPU speed, so if you have a faster CPU, you may need looser timings or slower "RAM speed" settings.

Tighter timings = faster RAM. Tighten them too much and the RAM won't work, and the system will be unstable until you reset the BIOS to defaults. To make resetting easier, (ESPECIALLY since I have a massive GPU card in the way of me reaching the BIOS reset jumper by hand while the GPU card is in) I installed a reset switch INSIDE my case (not outside). Single pole double throw switch (SPDT) soldered to a fan wire, connector on reset jumper header on mobo. (In case you aren't familiar with SPDT switches, read on--otherwise, skip this part. SPDT means one simple switch only has two positions, & toggles between two circuits, where one of those two is always left open/deactivated, while the other closed/active. Contacts A, B, & C work like this: Position 1 = A and B, not C, Position 2 = B and C, not A. B is the "common" contact, also usually called the "ground" or "neutral".)

I bought the switch at Radio Shack for a few bucks. I just mounted it in the case with some tape. ;-P If I'd want to be more proper, I'd drill a hole and screw the switch in. I got the fan wire & connector from a dead/worn CPU fan from an old AMD chip. Chop, strip, solder, install. I'd label it also, so you know which side is "reset" and which is "save".

Does this info help you?

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thanks for your detailed explanation.....I hink I will go with 1066 ram.....either kingston or ocz.....although my cpu is pretty slow (compared to yours)
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slink your profile says you have 3ghz, waht are your settings? and temps
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thanks for your detailed explanation.....I hink I will go with 1066 ram.....either kingston or ocz.....although my cpu is pretty slow (compared to yours)
go with the ocz. but take a look at g.skill as well they have some nice kits.
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slink your profile says you have 3ghz, waht are your settings? and temps
I'm not at home now. Shoot me a PM before 12AM GMT.

I have readjusted my stats to more accurately reflect my rig. I'm still working on finding the best setup for my rig. So far, I haven't pushed my CPU past ~2.7 while running at DDR2_1066.

There are a few ways to reach (and pass) 3.0 GHz with this CPU, but on our board, the method of cranking the FSB (or "HTT") is the preferred method, as it is the only way to increase the HT (HyperTransfer) speed past 2000 MHz (effective MHz)!
Code:
Formula: FSB * HT_Mult * 2 = HT_speed. (afaik)
Ex: 230 * 5x * 2 = Effective HT speed of 2300 MHz (afaik)
Off the top-o'-me head:
MY RAM runs at 2.3 volts, (tho most RAM would COOK itself at 2.3v) DDR2_1066 6-6-6-20-?-2T, and still getting faster. I have to adjust it more. This is only at the Kuma's stock CPU speed (2.7 GHz).

You're probably more interested in CPU settings... The Kuma vcore is set to something that results in a BIOS vcore reading of 1.26v. The multiplier stays around 13x or 13.5x for me. FSB-or-HTT runs around 230 at this voltage and multiplier setting. ~2 MHz higher at this voltage and the CPU fails Orthos, regardless of RAM settings (tho it still boots). HOWEVER, I haven't tried to use more voltage, because I am trying to find the "sweet spot" for my limited cooling capabilities.

I have also tested the multiplier options. As you set this Black Edition chip to use more Mult, it begins to eat more voltage. IIRC, I got it up to 16x before it REALLY started eating voltage (requiring increase of RAM v) and getting super hot. I could see the mult functioning at 18x or 18.5x with more extreme cooling, but for our board, lower mult and high FSB is literally the only way to go if you want a higher HT speed (therefore a high CPU_mult setting is out-of-question).

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I'm not at home now. Shoot me a PM before 12AM GMT.

I have readjusted my stats to more accurately reflect my rig. I'm still working on finding the best setup for my rig. So far, I haven't pushed my CPU past ~2.7 while running at DDR2_1066.

There are a few ways to reach (and pass) 3.0 GHz with this CPU, but on our board, the method of cranking the FSB (or "HTT") is the preferred method, as it is the only way to increase the HT (HyperTransfer) speed past 2000 MHz (effective MHz)!
Code:
Formula: FSB * HT_Mult * 2 = HT_speed. (afaik)
Ex: 230 * 5x * 2 = Effective HT speed of 2300 MHz (afaik)
Off the top-o'-me head:
MY RAM runs at 2.3 volts, (tho most RAM would COOK itself at 2.3v) DDR2_1066 6-6-6-20-?-2T, and still getting faster. I have to adjust it more. This is only at the Kuma's stock CPU speed (2.7 GHz).

You're probably more interested in CPU settings... The Kuma vcore is set to something that results in a BIOS vcore reading of 1.26v. The multiplier stays around 13x or 13.5x for me. FSB-or-HTT runs around 230 at this voltage and multiplier setting. ~2 MHz higher at this voltage and the CPU fails Orthos, regardless of RAM settings (tho it still boots). HOWEVER, I haven't tried to use more voltage, because I am trying to find the "sweet spot" for my limited cooling capabilities.

I have also tested the multiplier options. As you set this Black Edition chip to use more Mult, it begins to eat more voltage. IIRC, I got it up to 16x before it REALLY started eating voltage (requiring increase of RAM v) and getting super hot. I could see the mult functioning at 18x or 18.5x with more extreme cooling, but for our board, lower mult and high FSB is literally the only way to go if you want a higher HT speed (therefore a high CPU_mult setting is out-of-question).

How do you like this info?
Looks and sounds good to me. I'm confused about how you are doing your HTT 230 * 5 * 2 to give you 2300
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