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But I would not count on a bios update for our board.

Gyro
That's true.
But I would hope that ASUS will release BIOS at least for PII 940.
To be honest I don't understand their attitude towards this issue.
Is it really so hard to announce: ok, this mobo supports phenom II 940, here is the BIOS, but don't expect "miracles"....

I wouldn't like to change my mobo because I'm satisfied with it but if I am somehow force to do it then I will purchase sth else not necessarily manufactuerd by ASUS.
Edited by disnemar - 7/12/09 at 10:49am
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That's true.
But I would hope that ASUS will release BIOS at least for PII 940.
To be honest I don't understand their attitude towards this issue.
Is it really so hard to announce: ok, this mobo supports phenom II 940, here is the BIOS, but don't expect "miracles"....

I wouldn't like to change my mobo because I'm satisfied with it but if I am somehow force to do it then I will purchase sth else not necessarily manufactuerd by ASUS.
Welcome to OCN. I think ASUS is playing it smart in not officially supporting the Ph II cpu's on this mobo. There may be some legalities w/AMD that we are not aware of. Further more our mobo's don't fully run the Ph II cpu's at the HT & NB standard Frequencies. So I'd have to say Official support will most likely never happen. I have been wrong before and I would like this to be one of those time. Never the less I do appriciate the bios updates thus far and would like to see ASUS keep rolling out improved BIOS versions. Sadly they stopped making the mobo so we are left w/what they give us.
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So I'd have to say Official support will most likely never happen.(....)Sadly they stopped making the mobo so we are left w/what they give us.
I realize it perfectly well.
I don't expect ASUS to announce:"OK, this mobo fully supports PII so enjoy ".

But it would be nice if they released BIOS which would be described as the one that recognizes PII and allows people to install these processors on this mobo but at the same time they could highlight that full frequencies of PII are unlikely to be obtained on m2n32 sli deluxe....

Wishful thinking....
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I've got response from Asus that there won't be support for Phenom II on M2N-SLI Deluxe.

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Dear Customer,

Due to technical limitations M2N-SLI Deluxe will not support Phenom II CPUs.

Best Regards,
P. S.

Edited by kolos - 7/12/09 at 4:10pm
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ok they dont support the phenoms II but how come they run on our boards perfectly well despite the hardware limitations ht speed etc.!!!!they released two bioses specificly for these chips but they say no we dont support them!!!why do they do that?well i dont know i dont think someone knows exept people leading the asus company!!!!but in the end i find it very strange releasing bioses and then saying not supported they could suport ot if they wanted and if the demand was greater!maybe we should start sending them demands....!

EDIT:maybe the last two bioses where just a test to see if it would actualy work!!!!and AMD saying backwards compatibility is a trye story they had to make it work!they made enough changes just enough to make the chip run!!!!just random thoughts guys...!
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This seems weird especially as my Phenom II 940 works without problems, but maybe others have more problems.

It could just be an ASUS resource problem, why spend money on making the Phenom II's run on an AM2 board when you won't get much money from it compared to making the Bios better for say an AM3 board.
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XDRM I think the hardware limitations that they speak of is the actual componants built into the circuitry on the mobo's. These boards were designed to only go so fast. The FSB cpu the Chipset Frequency has a cap of limiting MHz that it can run at before it starts to loose it's reliablility/sustainability and temperatures that they were designed to run at. If you try to push the Frequencies to fast you will overheat and cook your circuitry. Prolly the NB Chipset or the power circuits that power the NB. This is true in examples of overclocking. Running your cpu at less then stock settings is a role reversal(meaning underclocking) and should not cause any problems for the cpu. I wish I had the exact reason why the Ph II cpu's will not have official cpu support on these boards but I can only speculate as to why they would not offer up any such support.
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I have a 940. Any easy way to OC only the HT link? The only way I've figured of doing it is by raising the bus speed which ends up OCing the CPU and RAM, too.
Edited by elliotm - 7/12/09 at 9:10pm
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N2Gaming you are correct about the hardware limitations on the motherboard i am with you on this one!BUT lets review the new cpus....lower vcore(ok by the board previus cpus had higher vcore) ddr2 memory controller on the chip(no proplem here either mobo is ddr2) only differenses i can think of(maybe there are more i dont know) is the ht speed 2000 on am2 and 4000 on am3 wich i believe isnt a problem for the cpu to run at 2000!!that is why i am saying if they wanted they could support these cpus perfectly well on this motherboard!I believe that it is not to hard to write a bios that will support am3 cpus just some lines of code more!It finaly comes down to profit and how to make more money!

EDIT:elliotm...just lower the multiplier and the ram divider from bios!lets say your multiplier is 15 and your bus speed is 200!15x200=3000 that is your cpu speed!lowering your multi makes the cpu run slower and lets the bus go higher 14*215=3010 close to stock but higher bus!as for the divider lets say we are going to use DDR2-800 with this, whose clock is 400Mhz. The computer realizes this and puts on a memory divider which says run the FSBRAM (always in this order) at a ratio of 1:2. Meaning for every 1Mhz in the FSB, there are 2Mhz for the Memory. Get it? That way we can tell the computer to run a ratio to keep the components at stock, but it works the same for overclocking.In your bios you should have options for your memory 800-667-and lower if you dont want to oc your ram just select 667 so when you oc your ht link your ram will start to go up from 667 wich is lower than stock!!!!!i hope this helped you.....!
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N2Gaming you are correct about the hardware limitations!

I believe that it is not to hard to write a bios that will support am3 cpus just some lines of code more!
Thanks... Well if writing bios code was so easy we would all be able to do it. Cudo's to the first person to post back here w/instructions or any how to guides in writing bios code. OK begin. Oh your waiting for the gun shot at the starting line. OK Bang.
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