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Hi disnemar, my guess would be that you would have the same issues as psychosteve using a 955 cpu because of it being an am3 cpu .
But according to some specifiacation AMD Athlon II X2 250 is also compatible with AM2+ socket so maybe it should work on M2n32........

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/...hlon-ii-x2-250
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But according to some specifiacation AMD Athlon II X2 250 is also compatible with AM2+ socket so maybe it should work on M2n32........

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/...hlon-ii-x2-250
Disnemar, XDRM is currently running a 550BE without any problems. I don't see why a 250 wouldn't work. I mean technically both processors are the same. Kind of doesn't explain why the 955 didn't work though

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I think this 800Mhz problem seems to be specific to the Phenom II 955. You can see from this link some dude having some trouble with this processor in a much newer motherboard. After he does his BIOS update the problem seems to be resolved for him.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/26...running-800mhz

I think it's definitely something to do with the processor's ability to have individual power saving ..um 'plans' in effect on each core. Does anyone know if that's something which all Phenom II's do or specific to the 955? Specific to 955 would seem a little strange really but the others seem to work...

I've ordered a new AM3 motherboard (I've defected to DFI :S) so I can't say i'm overly keen on putting the 955 back in to try it with the AMD Overdrive thingo, I did try K10Stat with the 955 with no success. It stated I had power state switching disabled in the BIOS (I tried this with CnQ Enabled and Disabled, also that C1E Support option.) So i'm pretty sure it needs a BIOS change to function properly.

Searching Google for "Phenom II 955 stuck at 800mhz" brings up a fair bit on this subject, mainly with newer motherboards and certain people not updating their BIOS.

Interesting stuff anyway
Edited by psychosteve - 7/14/09 at 9:38am
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Psychosteve, that's interesting. The Phenom II has a minimum power state of 800Mhz. I'm not sure why only the Ph II 955 has this problem? Perhaps maybe this problem isn't noticeable on the Ph II 940 because it's a AM2+ processor and not "AM3"
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I finally got my Phenom II 720 X3 it seems to work fine with BIOS 2207.
Unfortunately I am getting very bad temps, 60C when idle with stock cooler running at 3000 RPM.
I used some oldish zalman thermal grease.
What do you think? Clean the CPU and try again?
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Hi nanosec, it never hurts to try again. Before you use the old zalman grease try to mix up up real good w/a thin object like a straightened out paper clip or a plastic tube from an old bick pen or something like that. I know there prolly is not a lot of grease in the bottle to begin w/but making sure the grease has an even consistency is one thing out of the way. Another thing is you could wipe both the CPU and HSF w/some dry soft tissue or toilet paper to get the bulk of the tim off both surfaces. then use a little rubbing alcohol on both after you have most of the gunk off. Then after you use alcohol use another dry tissue to clean the alcohol residue off while it is drying followed by you blowing the little tissue fibers off both surfaces w/some air or w/your breath. This will help it dry faster and also remove any alcohol residue that may or may not break down your tim.

If you don't have a flat surface plate then you could use a flat piece of glass to make sure your cpu is flat and that your HSF is flat not convex or concave. If you have any concave or convex surfaces you may want to apply more tim then you would if you had flat surfaces. If you have flat surfaces then use minimul tim. I like to use the zalman paint brush to apply a real thin layer on both surfaces before mating them together. Then I would use a small 1/8" twist to make sure it spreads out real good but not use to much. If you use to much force when doing so it could squish all of the tim out in one area which would leave a no contact spot that might cause excess heat in that area. You could try it several times untill you get your best performance.

Last but not least. I would do your testing in the hottest ambient temperatures possible so you end up w/the best results. If you test at a lower ambient temperature and your already at your comfort max temp limit then guess what. When the ambient temps rise your cpu will not longer be at your comfortable limits because your cpu temps will rise w/ambient temps.

Good Luck,

N2G

EDIT: I forgot to mention, You could also test out your tim on the CPU &/or the HSF w a flat glass surface to see how well the TIM spreads when it is applied. Just put enough force between the CPU &/or HSF against the glass but not to much force that it would cause the glass to break. This will give you a general idea if you have any voids between the cpu and the HSF, plus it will show you if you have any voids or not.You may be able to try it w/died water as well. I have not tried this but in theory water might not stay in place as good as tim but it might give you a starting point as to how big or little a drop of TIM needs to be applied. Also w/water you may be able to see any air bubbles that could get trapped between the mating surfaces. This is of course if water works. If water is too runny you may try 100% antifreez.
Edited by N2Gaming - 7/16/09 at 10:35pm
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N2Gaming, once again great suggestions

Nanosec, what is the airflow setup like in your Silverstone case? Do you have the case populated with all the case fans or are only a few hooked up and running? Your motherboard, memory, video card ect can emit an substantial amount of heat as well. If there is poor airflow inside the case then all of this heat will get trapped inside.

Good luck
Edited by thlnk3r - 7/16/09 at 10:33pm
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Thanks thlk3r, I am humbled.
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Thanks thlk3r, I am humbled.
Ya right.
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I can't seem to get good idle temp.

I have now tried with 3 different coolers, the stock, 9700 zalman, and yesterday I got an arctic freezer pro 64 and some xm-2 grease.
The arctic freeze gives me the best and most stable temps, but still, 50C idle at ~2400RPM, full load with everest (only 15min test) 57-58C at ~2400RPM.
Something just seems wrong...

How would you recommend applying the thermal grease? With a line, pea, or cover the hole cpu etc.

On a side note do I really have to hit reset after each cold boot to boot?

edit
When I first installed the +5200 I got about 30-32C idle at ~1600RPM with the zalman, if I installed it again I would guess that I would hit the same again, I might try later.

So I think airflow is good and yes all fans slots are fitted.

The surface off the cpu looks fine I might try the glass thing but right now I cant really find a good glass surface.
Edited by nanosec - 7/18/09 at 4:42am
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