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Ya,prime and everest stable, added .0125v to vcore to compensate for a little
vdroop (1.344v -1.328v which is stock volts).

Thats just beginning, going to try a little more tonight. The next week is going to be hot and humid so probably have to back it down for a while.

N2Gaming, you could always lay a case fan across your vid cards for a
little more cfm blowing on the sb,might help with the top vid card temps too.
178.24 are awsome drivers, I've often thought of going back to those ,I don't need physics.

Gyro
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Thanks for the suggestion about the case fan. My gpu's I'm not to worried about. I just use EVGA's Precission to turn the fans up to 100%. They are all good after that. but that might work for keeping the chipset's cooler.

I have never tried different drivers in the past. If I had to reload an os I always just loaded up the most recent driver and if it worked fine for me then I would stick w/it. Most 99% of the time the most recent drivers work for me.

I noticed this time when I rolled the drivers back from 190.38 to 178.24 that my SLI'd cards artifacted a lot faster then useual. I'm wondering if those drivers are more intense on the GPU's.

In any case I just finished testing one GPU w/those drivers. Now I'm off to test the other card w/those drivers. I hope this card starts arifacting right away so I know it the card this time.
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Dougw133, the 9950BE may outperform the FX-62 wit it's two extra cores. A few other primary differences is the DIE shrink and architecture. I guess it depends on what you primarily do on your computer. Do you run any applications/games that would take advantage of a multi-core processor? The TDP for a 9950BE (140W) is certainly a lot more than a FX-62 (125W). Would additional cooling be required for a 9950BE? Perhaps...but with what you have now as your primary cooler you may not have to worry.

Hope that helps
I usually play MS FSX..A few others. FSX is huge CPU hog, and wasn't designed with multi core in mind. There have been slight improvements however not full yet. I feel like the FX-62 performs a little better and gets better frame rates in FSX. I have not OC'd the Phenom yet however. I think I'll give it a shot if I can ever figure out why this mobo won't OC right. Today I set my FSB at 220 and my multi at 15X...Do the math it's 3300mhz. The mobo reports and runs at 3080.
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Slightly confusing yes. My video card has the 7 pin HD connector into 3 RCA composits. I did not know the Newer HD video cards like my 9800GT's would work w/a analog tv. I may just need the proper S-Video type of connector. I tried using my dedicated S-Video cable at both the card and TV w/no other connections and the TV would not display video. I don't think it was a Nvidia setting either. sigh
N2gaming - your "7 pin HD connector into 3 RCA composits" is actually called "component". Whilst it looks similar to rgb, rgb and component are quite different.
What you need is a "component" to "svideo" or "composite" adapter and should be pretty cheap if you can find one.
The other option is a vga to svideo or composite adapter - sometimes called a scan converter. This is more expensive (maybe about us $50) but is plug and play.
Neither will give a very good image as you are downscaling to sd tv resolution but will be fine for bios testing etc.

Hope that helps - let me know how you get on


Also a question - i used the dual core optimizer with my 4200 x2 and it worked great. Now that ive upgraded to a quad do i still use dual core optimizer or is there some kind of quad optimizer out there? Couldnt find any info on the amd page.....
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N2gaming - your "7 pin HD connector into 3 RCA composits" is actually called "component". Whilst it looks similar to rgb, rgb and component are quite different.
What you need is a "component" to "svideo" or "composite" adapter and should be pretty cheap if you can find one.
The other option is a vga to svideo or composite adapter - sometimes called a scan converter. This is more expensive (maybe about us $50) but is plug and play.
Neither will give a very good image as you are downscaling to sd tv resolution but will be fine for bios testing etc.

Hope that helps - let me know how you get on
Yes you are correct. I meant to say componant but composite came to mind at the time. Thanks. I looked at my user literature and it looks as if I can get a 9 pin that does S-Video and Rgb for yellow RCA style video 0ut/In.


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Also a question - i used the dual core optimizer with my 4200 x2 and it worked great. Now that ive upgraded to a quad do i still use dual core optimizer or is there some kind of quad optimizer out there? Couldnt find any info on the amd page.....
Same for me I have been wanting to know this for a while now. Microsoft may have a hotfix for Quad core support in XP. AMD removed the Duel core optimizer as far as I can tell. So if any one know the answer to this riddle then please speak up and earn your Rep +
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Are you saying I sould run one on both the top and lower finned heat sinks for added cooling?

I have one on the SB no make that have two on the SB and no difference form runnig just one on it. I also have one on the exhauste side of the mobo on what I think to be the mosfets.
Actually what I am trying to say((Failing)long day MB ticking me off) is to try to isolate the air coming off the cpu HSF from that that is cooling your chipset/SB/Mosfets and you will notice a major difference. Basically when I switched to water(well back to air as the cpu block is clogged :swearing It removed the hot air coming off my HSF and heating up my SB/MCP/Mosfets and I noticed that those temps dropped ~5c. Altho my SB temps were never bad ~40 now ~32-35c but I'm not sure what yours are.
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I have run into a bit of a random problem though, upon restarting the computer the monitor seems not to receive any signal from the card and doesn't until windows login screen loads. I am able to enter bios (I guess) by tapping the del key every few seconds during upon restart - it then never makes its way to the login screen and the monitor never comes on. Got any ideas?
Actuality, if you're not getting any display at POST then this pretty eliminates a Windows driver issue. What is the refresh rate set to on your monitor? Have you tested with a different video card?

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I usually play MS FSX..A few others. FSX is huge CPU hog, and wasn't designed with multi core in mind. There have been slight improvements however not full yet. I feel like the FX-62 performs a little better and gets better frame rates in FSX. I have not OC'd the Phenom yet however. I think I'll give it a shot if I can ever figure out why this mobo won't OC right. Today I set my FSB at 220 and my multi at 15X...Do the math it's 3300mhz. The mobo reports and runs at 3080.
Dougw133, sounds like you enjoy the FX-62 more than the Quad

In regards to your overclock issue, I understand POST reports the wrong speed but does Windows report the same thing or is it different? Does 210HTT * 15x work?

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Thanks thlk3r for catching that, I totally did not think his problem through. I was thinking he was having issues w/video in windows at boot up.
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Actuality, if you're not getting any display at POST then this pretty eliminates a Windows driver issue. What is the refresh rate set to on your monitor? Have you tested with a different video card?



Dougw133, sounds like you enjoy the FX-62 more than the Quad

In regards to your overclock issue, I understand POST reports the wrong speed but does Windows report the same thing or is it different? Does 210HTT * 15x work?

Good luck
to be honest i havent tried to boot into vista when i feel the bios is incorrect..i have new major problem though...i put the phenom in lastnight thinking i would run it at 2.8ghz instead of its stock 2.6 to match the fx's stock clock..when i attempted to boot into vista i ran into hell. i put my pw in and vista started loading the desktop, then the pc rebooted...the bios did not post. I loaded the defaults via the cmos jumper as usual and the bios posted stating checksum error defaults loaded..i entered the bios and left everything default...i no longer can boot into windows..i got close but recieved a missing or corrupt boot mgr...that i can deal with but what is happening now is that the bios isnt even posting even if i try to reset the cmos..i dont know what could be going on that boot mgr is corrupt and now my bios wont post...any ideas where to start?
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Thanks thlk3r for catching that, I totally did not think his problem through. I was thinking he was having issues w/video in windows at boot up.
N2Gaming, oh no problem man

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i put the phenom in lastnight thinking i would run it at 2.8ghz instead of its stock 2.6 to match the fx's stock clock..when i attempted to boot into vista i ran into hell. i put my pw in and vista started loading the desktop, then the pc rebooted...the bios did not post. I loaded the defaults via the cmos jumper as usual and the bios posted stating checksum error defaults loaded..i entered the bios and left everything default...i no longer can boot into windows..i got close but recieved a missing or corrupt boot mgr...
Dougw133, sounds like your boot manager became corrupt. Sometimes this can occur with an unstable overclock or corrupt memory. You'll need to repair the boot manager in order to get back into the OS. I recommend performing a search in Google on "repairing the vista boot manager". Here is a link to Microsoft's section for this particular issue: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392.

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