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Ok this is what i got and thanks a mil for helping me. I did run memtest86+ before and used everest to stress the rig. Everything turnout fine and memtest was good. My cpu ran with 1.4v stock with 200x16= 3.2ghz and the ram as shown in bios was 533 @1.8v. The temps where crazy because i was adding all this voltage and not realiing it wasn't doing it any good. Current setting, i put my antec fans on hi.. now this is what im running now 220x15 @ stock voltage 1.4v and set the ram to 533 left everything else as is.. temps dont exceed 57c. Im using the stock voltage so it really shouldn't go up unless just pushing the fsb makes things run hotter??
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Yomny, Do you know what the under load temps were at stock settings? I'm curious because 57 is still high. is 57C at idle or 100% CPU load? If you have any thermal compound you may want to try cleaning your CPU/hs&fan and try re-applying the thermal compound to see if you can get those temps any lower. if your temps will not come down then I might suggest another heat sink and fan. It could turn out to be a favorable addition to your rig in order to get the temps down and allow you additonal headroom for overclocking. most stock heatsinks and fans are just good enough for stock settings and they will keep the cpu at a temperature rated for stock spd's. how is your curent overclock doing under stress tests?
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well the 57c is under 100% load with everest and the system OC'ed to 3.3ghz. I installed this cpu with that artic silver 5 compound about 3 months ago. The temp is not constant either it touches 57 but its mostly at 54 or so. Even if i didn't touch the voltage does increasing the fsb speed increase heat?
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Honestly I don't know. I have not tested this one yet. The total cpu frequency is what will cause the most heat w/the exception of overvoltage. If you drop your multi and raise the fsb then you have just under/overclocked at the same time. most of the time you can obtain a fairly decent overclock with a BE by raising both the FSB and Multiplier a little each with out having to raise CVolt to cpu. Consequently when you raise the voltage probably as you have seen then that is when you will see most of your rapid heat related issues. I just noticed you rig is using a 6400+ that is going to be your biggest hurdle. they have a tendancy to run hot as is because of the wattage and L2 cache size. Is your proc a BE or a regular locked multi proc.
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Since Yommy is using a 6400+ (Windsor) isn't anything under 63c Acceptable?

Let alone on a Stock Heatsink


Cooler is always better but his temps are fine so far.
post #326 of 12343
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Originally Posted by Yomny View Post
Im using the stock voltage so it really shouldn't go up unless just pushing the fsb makes things run hotter??
the best way for you to figure that one out is to record your system as is right now. temps fsb etc. Then lower your fsb to 200 or less if possible and see what happens to your temps under load. Sometimes hands on experiance is the best way to get an answer your question. You'll be able to trust your results and you'll know for sure how if any fsb affects your cpu temps. I have not used a 6400+ processor yet becuase of the heat related issues. I steered clear of them for that reason.
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(I have regular edition not black) i could see the heat. I do recall them running at 53 maybe a bit lower while being stressed by everest so i do think they run really slow. I just found out from AMD that the voltage rating is 1.35-1.4 so i thought 1.4v was stock but it seems that 1.4v is the most i could give it. Right now im running at 1.4 and everything runs fine... im haven't touched anything else but the multiplier which is 15 and fsb at 221 and it hasn't been crashing at all and i've been raising the FSB from 218 to 221 little by little.. I think my problem before was that i thought stock voltage was 1.4 so i always gave it a bit more and it wouldn't be stable at all.. but now that i haven't exceeded the 1.4 it OC's ok. Im getting new memory and a heatsink fan that should allow me to push things a bit more but i hear that 6400+ dont go above 3.4ghz or so
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I don't think a duel core processor running at 3.2MHz bone stock is slow. if anything it's a little faster. but runs hotter. I think you do have 2x1mb L2 cache right. or is it 2x512 L2 cache? Any way if it's the former then that cache should make it a little faster if any thing.
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Is not really slow, i have no complains about. I just want to do some overclocking and well maybe i picked the wrong processor to do it with. My intentions are not to OC this thing till it spills magma i simply want to learn the skill while keeping everything safe. I have another question this being the M2N board. I hear alot of this about the HTT and well i dont think i have any control of it on my board.. is that the multiplier ive been switching or is it different type of multiplier. I need a little of human interpretation here because ive been doing alot of reading and im simply overwhelmed, and one more thing the ram devider, how come my mobo only allows me to set 400 533 600 800 it doesn't allow anything lower or even the 33 mhz the other things are supposed to run at? How come some mobos dont have these controls even though they are so essential? Thank you for your time and patience
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I believe the pci bus spd is 33 or 66 mhz and pcie is 100 mhz. I could be wrong on that one. the ram spd is set from 400 to 800 at stock spds. if you change the cpu ht link from 5 to 4 what you have done is change the motherboards primary bandwith. this is how the mother board comes up with the 1000mhz bus. I know I'm not doing the best job of explaining and I'm sorry for that. ok so if you have 200 mhz fsb x ht of multi 5 then you have 200x5=HT 1000 now if you have overclock fsb of 275x5=HT 1375 and mostlikely your mobo will become unstable so if you change the HT to a multi of 4 then you would have 275x4=HT 1096 and are more likely to have a stable mobo. the next thing you would have to consider is how the ram will be overclocked at fsb 275 and a multi of 15 then you would have cpu divisor of probably 8 or 9 I'm not sure right now cause my BNB rig is stripped down to the case only for some more mods. in any case your ram would be a lot higher then ddr800 if it was set at ddr800. it would more likely be ddr1000+ I say plus cause I'm not good at the math yet but I know it would be up there and if your ram can't handle that spd then you would have to drop your ram to ddr667 or what ever you choose and then your ram would be at a spd closer to a stock spd of ddr800, I'm not the best at explaining this stuff as I myself have only started trying to learn all of this with in the last couple of months or so and have learned enough to know the basics and know that there is just too much to know and one will never know it all unless they invest all there time and/or do this stuff for a living. I don't know of any one off hand who can tell me what every setting in the bios is used for, or how to set it for maximum performance. there is just to much stuff to know. I'm not saying that you/one can't learn it but I believe the most of us just go with the basics and what works. The memory has about 15- 20 different settings and most of them are left to auto. there could be more but those are just timings for memory. A real Overclocking afficianotto will have patience and try to tweek as many settings in the bios needed to sqeeze every bit of performance out of the machine. For now I don't have that kind of time vested in my knowledge. It would be nice some day. The only thing is by the time you get it all figured out they go and update and change everything around on you and add like a 100 more settings to learn and the delima or learning curve is started all over again. Maybe I exagerated a little but that was just to make a point about knowing the settings. there is a lot of them and as always the more time you spend getting to know your mother board and bios settings the more you will understand it. take about 30-60 min. inside the bios just looking at all the settings. one thing I have done to learn some of the settings is look at as many settings as possible record the names of ones I wanted to learn then google them. most of the times I come up with a list of different links that have explanations of those settings and the benifits of tweeking or just leaving it as is. I hope this helps further your interests in the m2n board and settings. We can all give you settings and tell you what to change for a decent overclock but honestly it's just way more fun when you understand what it is that makes it tick. When you understand the setting you have a better time tweeking it and useually end up with a better overclock. you also understand all the different ways to achieve a overclock. there is more than one way to overclock you rig. earlier in my previose post I mentions you would be under and overclocking at the same time. that is true in many overclocks. you underclock or actually make changes to stablize your system and sometimes the only way to do that is to slightly underclock one of your settings. I could go on for a while and hopefully you are going to understand that in the end you can only appriciate overclocking to it's fullest when you know why your changes affected your pc the way they do. As always feel free to ask questions like that one about HTT. It tells me your on the right track to becoming a good overclocker.

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